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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 11:27 PM
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I just installed these two components today on my 99 Trans Am. No AIT sensor mount, and looking on FTP's website, I saw I don't need it with an aftermarket MAF. Hooked everything up, was feeling weird at WOT in 1st, 2nd and a little in 3rd gear, but now are much smoother. But now, I have a SES light. What codes are normally associated with a new MAF instal? Going to check it out tomorrow, but I can't sleep like this lol. Thanks for the help.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 12:48 AM
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The lid didn't have a hole for the iat sensor or the rubber part that you can just remove from the stock lid and install in the new lid. Just use a big flathead screwdriver to remove it. Common ses's with a maf are running too lean. I have a slp as a backup maf and never had any problems with codes or performance.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 01:15 AM
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FTP's website said that the AIT isn't needed with most aftermarket maf's. And all that does is read the incoming temperature, correct? That really shouldn't set off a SES. If it is from running too lean....the 02 sensors can't tell the ECU to add more fuel?? And if it is to lean..how lean are we talking, and the only way to fix the problem is to have it tuned, right??
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 06:22 AM
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The 85mm MAF's are 5 wire connectors and you have to rewire the IAT into the 85MAF harness. (It has a temp bulb build in) when you remove it from your lid. You can't just leave it disconnected (IAT) that's were you SES light is coming from
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 08:17 AM
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Just like Toad said, the ses light is coming from not having the iat hooked up.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 08:27 AM
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The conector for the AIT wouldn't fit in the new MAF sensor yesterday...but I'll give it another try today. Thanks for the help. I'll come back to let yall know if that was the problem. Thanks.
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The connector won't fit because it's trying to put a two wire connector into a 5 wire slot.

You need to buy a new 5-pin wire harness and then splice in your IAT and maf sensor to the new maf. It's not a simple plug-n-play unless you buy the harness from someone on here that does essentially that. I think it costs in the neighborhood of $25. Do a search.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 11:19 AM
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As long as you have the IAT harness plugged in to the new MAF then you should be fine. If you have the MAF plugged in I would assume you have the adapter harness for the 3 wire to 5 wire, so it should have a spot to plug in your original IAT plug. The 5 wire MAF has the IAT built in, which is why they say you dont need one(or need a separate one to be more accurate), but you still need that portion of your harness plugged in to read it.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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As mentioned, you either need an adapter harness for the IAT or keep your factory IAT installed. The SLP MAF's don't come with the harness. They are about 25-30.00
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Looking for the adapter harness on your guy's website. I guess I need to do alot more research before I buy stuff from now on. Does FTP carry the adapter harness? Oh thanks for all the help guys. I really appreciate it.
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We do carry them but they are not presently listed on our web site. The harness adapter is 29.95 + shipping. Thanks!
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I want one. lol. Can I place an order through a PM or email since they are not on your website?
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Originally Posted by AznMuscle
I want one. lol. Can I place an order through a PM or email since they are not on your website?
Just call us at 204-955-4896

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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 05:42 PM
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Thank you. Oh, I would also just like to say that your lid looks damn good. Very clean, and much better flowing then the stock one. Everyone who has riddin in my car so far can feel a difference. Very nice product.
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This is were I am stuck on buy the ftp lid i want to use a 85mm maf with the iat in it but don't know what one to use none of them say anything about how to change that over and what extra parts you need to buy. what else do I need to know or what other opitons are there besides drilling a hole in the lid.
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Originally Posted by ls1joe
This is were I am stuck on buy the ftp lid i want to use a 85mm maf with the iat in it but don't know what one to use none of them say anything about how to change that over and what extra parts you need to buy. what else do I need to know or what other opitons are there besides drilling a hole in the lid.
All of the 85mm MAF's with the exception of the SLP one require you to get custom programming to update the MAF table in your computer. The SLP one uses a crude resistor method to try and bring the values in line with the factory table but it is not very accurate. Custom tuning is still recommended.

The SLP MAF comes with an adapter to plug into the stock harness but still requires you to use the stock IAT sensor (odd that they did this). For all the other 85mm MAF's, you need a harness we sell for 30.00 which allows you to plug into the stock harness AND use the built in IAT which means you can do away with your factory IAT and don't have to drill a hole in our lid.

If you are not ready for the 85mm MAF right now but want to upgrade to our lid, we do sell an adpater to work with the stock MAF but you will have to drill a hold in our lid for the IAT sensor. We provide instructions with our lid on how to do this.

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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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I will upgrade to a 85mm maf i will need to find a place to tune it here in mn I don't want to drill a hole in the lid. so what maf should I get?
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Never mind read your post wrong
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Originally Posted by ls1joe
I will upgrade to a 85mm maf i will need to find a place to tune it here in mn I don't want to drill a hole in the lid. so what maf should I get?
You can get any factory 85mm MAF sensor. Lots of people like the Corvette Z06 MAF's. They are all over Ebay.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Fast Toys Performance Parts
You can get any factory 85mm MAF sensor. Lots of people like the Corvette Z06 MAF's. They are all over Ebay.
Ok im going t get a zo6 maf. what will you charge me for your ftp 85mm lid, the 3 to 5 wire harness, and ftra kit if you think thats ok for me to use I have a aftermarket mod firehawk hood.
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