02 ls1 in a 98 camaro...
03-08-2008, 06:19 PM
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02 ls1 in a 98 camaro... what all am i going to have to change to put a 02 ls1 in? it does not include the intake but it has the wp, balancer, and flexplate...my motor had the oil pump go out i presume, no oil pressure and it knocking. just basically need to know if there are any major wiring differences because they do have different harnesses...
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03-08-2008, 06:46 PM
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the motor is basically block, heads, balancer, and flywheel. i will be using everything else off my car...the motor has 34k and is out of a 02 ws6. i am getting it for $1k. good deal you think?
03-08-2008, 06:59 PM
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oil pump i might do just because that what i think the problem with the old motor is...but i really can not get into putting a whole bunch into it, i spent most of my money on the car itself. is there a problem with the rod bolts?
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03-08-2008, 07:04 PM
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the stock rod bolts are fine if you don't plan to spin it more than 6k, they are a easy swap with the motor out and only cost $100. i would also check the bearings and see if they show any wear. the 02s had a ls6 style pump, they didn't have the common 98 oil pump failure. my cars a 98 the oil pump is my next mod.
03-08-2008, 07:23 PM
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ok, so i probably dont even need to do the oil pump then...i probably shouldnt have purchased the car but i got a good deal i think, paid 2200 for it. 100k miles, auto(unfortunately), red, brand new tires. does have some body issues, fenders and hood fadded and peeling, passenger door seperated where outer door panel glued to door frame, and a crack in rear passenger quarter...but it did just have 3.73's put in. also has a comp cam(hopefully still good). billet grille too.
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03-08-2008, 08:33 PM
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You will need coil brackets because the valve covers are different and the coils mount directly to the valve cover on your 1998 motor are different, a pcv hose for a newer model 2000-2002 model, and your injectors will be fine but you might want to find a newer set 2001,2002 28.8lb but the 1998 are just a hair smaller 28.6lb, I'm pretty sure. I can't think right off hand of any thing else you will need because I have a 2002 LS6 in my 1998 Camaro SS that I had to have with my stock 1998 PCM with untouched stock wiring harness but it has been tuned for my cam and bolt ons. Good Luck with it.
03-08-2008, 10:16 PM
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i heard the 01-02 motors had a little bit better rod bolts in them, if he's not gonna do a cam or anything i wouldn't worry about the rod bolts, make sure you switch over the temp sensor and the oil pressure sending unit. they are different. you don't to change the coils, they are the same all years but the coil brackets are different. good luck
03-09-2008, 02:02 PM
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LS6 or better intake. 02's already have the better rod bolts. The PCM's are different but if the connectors are the same there should be no issue there. Only possible issue I can think of is if the 02 doesn't have have the valve covers and coil brackets he can't swap'em off his old motor cause they were different. I guees you'll need to decide whether to stay emmisions legal or not also with the AIR and EGR stuff too. IM choice will also dictate some of this along with coolant pipe and PCV setup as they were a little different too. Replace your knock sensors and harness while your there. Good luck!!
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the stock rod bolts are fine if you don't plan to spin it more than 6k, they are a easy swap with the motor out and only cost $100. i would also check the bearings and see if they show any wear. the 02s had a ls6 style pump, they didn't have the common 98 oil pump failure. my cars a 98 the oil pump is my next mod.
ive been spining my stock pistoned sotck rod bolts to a shift pt of 6850 and a red line at 7000 for about a year and a half dont listin to him they will be fine....also im still on the stock ls1 pump for the 02s there perfectly fine past 600hp im currently at 535 rwhp thew a danas60 vig3800 and a steel d/s on a bigassed cam only car with a 125shot and it hasnt fased it honestly i just think its a scam by the sponsers to get more money out of builds but dont get me wrong they do flow better but again it realy isnt nessasary allthough i would reccomend a light weight fly wheel it helps a whole lot in the rev stand point...
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Well its been about a year and a half and ive changed the oil every 700 miles since ive owned it and its been about 3 years and 1.5yrs at the current power level personly everyone says that they are ticking time bombs well i say you all ither did something wrong or something because you underestimate the ls1 my oil goes in clean and comes out clean im talking it looks the same when i drane it its not black! oh and im going 6.7s at 103 in the eigth mile on a stock bottom end.
03-10-2008, 10:32 AM
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ok, ended up getting the motor. looks decent. its together, has heads, block, coils, water pump, flexplate, and harmonic balancer. bottom half was painted orange cause it was going into a 64 nova.
right now i cannot afford a ls6 intake, so i would just take the tubes off my block and put them on the new one? it has coolant tubes already sticking out the front. also take all sensors out of old motor and put in new one too? should be about it right?
right now i cannot afford a ls6 intake, so i would just take the tubes off my block and put them on the new one? it has coolant tubes already sticking out the front. also take all sensors out of old motor and put in new one too? should be about it right?
03-11-2008, 08:49 AM
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Well its been about a year and a half and ive changed the oil every 700 miles since ive owned it and its been about 3 years and 1.5yrs at the current power level personly everyone says that they are ticking time bombs well i say you all ither did something wrong or something because you underestimate the ls1 my oil goes in clean and comes out clean im talking it looks the same when i drane it its not black! oh and im going 6.7s at 103 in the eigth mile on a stock bottom end.
not to call you out, but oil coming out black has nothing whatsoever to do with dirt and/or metal particles...its a chemical change that occurs in the oil from the heat cycling (yes even synthetic). if your oil is coming out exactly as it went in, your not driving the car or you have some sort of special oil we don't know about
03-12-2008, 12:45 PM
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ive heard you can get 500hp out of the stock bottem end but when i build my motor this summer im going to go ahead and change my oil pump and but new bearings in the bottem end just to be safe
