View Poll Results: Which do you prefer X or H
X
354
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08-06-2008, 05:08 PM
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X pipe, sounds better IMHO I have had an Impalla SS with an H and we switched it out for an X and it sound alot better. But thats an LT1 car so it sounded good anyway.
I vote for an 3" over the axle kit that has good clerence and has an X with good mufflers, perferable a stainless muffler. Dumps are cool for a while but it gets old after a short period of time, plus if you get pulled over for it you get a ticket in most states since the tailpipe doesn't exit the body line.
Just my .02 take it for what its worth
I vote for an 3" over the axle kit that has good clerence and has an X with good mufflers, perferable a stainless muffler. Dumps are cool for a while but it gets old after a short period of time, plus if you get pulled over for it you get a ticket in most states since the tailpipe doesn't exit the body line.
Just my .02 take it for what its worth
08-06-2008, 08:29 PM
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My x-pipe is rusting a little so I'm all for a stainless H-pipe set-up! I think for the mufflers, the best option is to not include any so people can add their own since there are so many options....or offer to install any kind or let people send in their own(probably too time consuming.) I'm using the 3" chambered mufflers from www.classicchambered.com so I get close to the GMMG sound and I know I'd use these again if I got the h-pipe which would be extra work for me if you only install dynomax bullets. Just an idea!
11-18-2008, 07:29 PM
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Nice to see that you guys are in Florida. A new exhaust is in my near future so I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this thread. Should you need a car for test fitment, add me to the list. I'd be more than happy to help out. Update us when you can!
11-24-2008, 11:54 PM
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11-25-2008, 08:59 PM
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America and I think Americans should drive American cars 
SO THAT'S WHY AMERICAN MANUFACTURES ARE ASKING FOR 250 BILLION BAIL OUT! 
so they can compete with Euro and Japan trash cars right
SO THAT'S WHY AMERICAN MANUFACTURES ARE ASKING FOR 250 BILLION BAIL OUT! so they can compete with Euro and Japan trash cars right
11-25-2008, 09:20 PM
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EDIT: Not a bail out, a loan. Last time this happened the loan was paid off and then some with interest in 5 years.
No primarily because the American cars of the past were junk, and the current generation are carrying that misconception into an era when cars like the CTS are able to compete with and best many other cars from most world auto makers. That and many youthful buyers are obsessed with 16 second tojo 4 bangers than real performance cars.
If you want to buy an import car go ahead, all your doing is removing the manufacturing base from the American economy. Think about it the US economy was strongest when we manufactured the materials that built the nations of the world, American steel was the standard by which others were judged, and the dollar was far and away the most important currency in the world economy. What has happened? the Government, in their ever present expansion into things they have no buisness in, has put so many restrictions on buisness that when in conjunction with the leeches that are the unions have made it un-feasible to run a buisness in the united states. So buisness goes away and here we are with no industry, no real way to make money on a national level, and we slowly become a third world country living off the countries we helped to build.
So sure if you want to be one of the misinformed, ignorant and otherwise usless sheeple go right ahead and buy your tojo/kraut mobile when a CTS type car would be cheaper and perform as well or better while being just as comfortable, while your at it vote for obama bin laden, oh wait you probably did!
Some people love America and some dont, its as simple as that. If you love this greatest of nations, buy American products made in America for American consumers.
So where are the other ricers with their hp per liter/ drift is better than drag/ my motor isa sooooo tiny American-san arguments?
No primarily because the American cars of the past were junk, and the current generation are carrying that misconception into an era when cars like the CTS are able to compete with and best many other cars from most world auto makers. That and many youthful buyers are obsessed with 16 second tojo 4 bangers than real performance cars.
If you want to buy an import car go ahead, all your doing is removing the manufacturing base from the American economy. Think about it the US economy was strongest when we manufactured the materials that built the nations of the world, American steel was the standard by which others were judged, and the dollar was far and away the most important currency in the world economy. What has happened? the Government, in their ever present expansion into things they have no buisness in, has put so many restrictions on buisness that when in conjunction with the leeches that are the unions have made it un-feasible to run a buisness in the united states. So buisness goes away and here we are with no industry, no real way to make money on a national level, and we slowly become a third world country living off the countries we helped to build.
So sure if you want to be one of the misinformed, ignorant and otherwise usless sheeple go right ahead and buy your tojo/kraut mobile when a CTS type car would be cheaper and perform as well or better while being just as comfortable, while your at it vote for obama bin laden, oh wait you probably did!
Some people love America and some dont, its as simple as that. If you love this greatest of nations, buy American products made in America for American consumers.
So where are the other ricers with their hp per liter/ drift is better than drag/ my motor isa sooooo tiny American-san arguments?
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11-25-2008, 10:01 PM
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Want to truly bail out the American automakers without costing the taxpayers a cent? Tell the government and the unions to **** off. They'll be back on their feet in no time. Give them a bailout and they'll be doomed to walk the same paths and they'll never get better.
If Americans were truly EDUCATED, they would buy only American cars. Buying Honda or Toyota is a great way to finance Japan. It doesn't matter if they have factories here. The money goes overseas. When you support Japanese car manufacturers, you support Japan and hurt America. For every import you buy, you displace American workers take away from the American economy. Given the ignorance of your post, I would assume you don't understand fundamental economics, either.
11-25-2008, 10:13 PM
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It's a $25 billion bailout, not a $250 billion. And for the record, the American auto industry is dying because of unions, pensions and ridiculous CAFE standards. American auto makers are doing excellent overseas. It's the American regulations that are killing them. Japanese manufacturers don't have to deal with many them because they are based overseas. The average Toyota worker makes $45/hour. American auto workers make $70 because of the corrupt unions. Factor in the billions that are paid out to workers that haven't turned a wrench in decades and a government that literally FORCES GM to engineer a bunch of fuel efficient cars no one wants because of CAFE standards so they can get the fleet average high enough to actually still manufacture the cars people DO want and you have a collapse. Quality has very little to do with it. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Want to truly bail out the American automakers without costing the taxpayers a cent? Tell the government and the unions to **** off. They'll be back on their feet in no time. Give them a bailout and they'll be doomed to walk the same paths and they'll never get better.
If Americans were truly EDUCATED, they would buy only American cars. Buying Honda or Toyota is a great way to finance Japan. It doesn't matter if they have factories here. The money goes overseas. When you support Japanese car manufacturers, you support Japan and hurt America. For every import you buy, you displace American workers take away from the American economy. Given the ignorance of your post, I would assume you don't understand fundamental economics, either.
Want to truly bail out the American automakers without costing the taxpayers a cent? Tell the government and the unions to **** off. They'll be back on their feet in no time. Give them a bailout and they'll be doomed to walk the same paths and they'll never get better.
If Americans were truly EDUCATED, they would buy only American cars. Buying Honda or Toyota is a great way to finance Japan. It doesn't matter if they have factories here. The money goes overseas. When you support Japanese car manufacturers, you support Japan and hurt America. For every import you buy, you displace American workers take away from the American economy. Given the ignorance of your post, I would assume you don't understand fundamental economics, either.
