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Old 12-27-2009, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by shortdog
I'm interested in your larger ram air setup without the a/c condenser. BUT.. how does the air filter stay secure on that particular kit? From looking at the pics, I didn't see a filter tray it usually sits on. It also looks like the filter will fall right out of the bottom.
no the filter still uses the tray it is just cut on the back side where the ram air runs up it, i included a picture of my first version i had on my car...now i use better metal and a slight tweak on the measurements...dont mind the white caulk it dries clear...

so everything fits the same with just some minor cutting...lid base assembly fits in the same position and uses the same 4 10mm bolts to secure it, the filter and lid also work the same...

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now available through Speed INC...they will give you a great deal on installing it too if you are local...

http://www.speedinc.com/cont.cfm?cid=C0000984
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I'm assuming the metal lip that sits on the core support is wide enough to keep the filter secure? It looks like without the plastic support in the middle of the filter tray, the filter will fall right through the bottom due to the weight (K&N Filter).

Otherwise, great invention on your part. Do Speedinc have them in stock, or do you have to make them when the order is placed?
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Originally Posted by shortdog
I'm assuming the metal lip that sits on the core support is wide enough to keep the filter secure? It looks like without the plastic support in the middle of the filter tray, the filter will fall right through the bottom due to the weight (K&N Filter).

Otherwise, great invention on your part. Do Speedinc have them in stock, or do you have to make them when the order is placed?
The filter actually sits on the outer edge that middle support is not needed.

Also speed is going to be stocking some...
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Very nice Chris1313. I didn't know you had developed such an awesome ram air set-up.
Well done!
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Originally Posted by LS1-450
Very nice Chris1313. I didn't know you had developed such an awesome ram air set-up.
Well done!
Yeah it started off with my original design I had on my car, then the demand for it rose so I tweaked the design for the better to what it is today…I am very happy with it, minimal modifying, light weight, good looks, excellent performance, and Speed Inc was kind enough to back it after they saw its performance on a few of their cars, including mine…Thanks
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Thats very cool that speed inc is backing and selling it now. Nice job Chris
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figured I would bump this for anyone new to the site or happened to miss it thread...cheap hp can be made with a ram air kit don't just pass it over...
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Originally Posted by chrs1313
figured I would bump this for anyone new to the site or happened to miss it thread...cheap hp can be made with a ram air kit don't just pass it over...
I'm ordering at the end of this week (income)... How do we specify that we need to keep AC, or is that done through you?
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Originally Posted by lemons12
I'm ordering at the end of this week (income)... How do we specify that we need to keep AC, or is that done through you?
if you need an ac version just send me a pm and I will get one to you...speed inc carries the non ac version...

I would recommend the non ac version just for the gains and for the weight reduction...I have had a few people get the ac version and then a couple weeks later pull the ac and upgrade to the larger ram air...but if you are set on keeping the ac I can whip one up for you...
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Originally Posted by chrs1313
if you need an ac version just send me a pm and I will get one to you...speed inc carries the non ac version...

I would recommend the non ac version just for the gains and for the weight reduction...I have had a few people get the ac version and then a couple weeks later pull the ac and upgrade to the larger ram air...but if you are set on keeping the ac I can whip one up for you...
I will not remove the AC.
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Originally Posted by chrs1313
I have had a few people get the ac version and then a couple weeks later pull the ac and upgrade to the larger ram air
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Originally Posted by Formula_LS1
Going to guess you no longer have AC!

I will not be taking it off.. I have already had a car like that, this one will be staying full weight.... Plus some.

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Hmmmmmmm. I'm considering ordering one sometime before my car's back together. I already have an SSRA. But, I'm keeping the A/C out with the new motor, and the bigger ducting should give me even more power.
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Do you not pick up as much with the ac one? I'm in Texas and now way in hell we can go without an a/c. How much to ship one with a/c to Texas, 76065
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Originally Posted by lemons12
Going to guess you no longer have AC!
Yep I used the AC maybe once or twice last summer (usually doesn't get too hot in Chicago), so I decided that I'd be better off without it.

Originally Posted by edzsilverss
Do you not pick up as much with the ac one?
I've had both and here are my results from the one WITH AC (taken from one of my older posts)...

"...this is with the DA corrected both before and after...I ran .178 seconds faster and 1.534 mph faster. Nothing else on the car was changed."

My car is SI, btw.

My car went into storage for the winter shortly after the one for non AC cars went on, but I'll have some new results in the spring.
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Originally Posted by tspence45
Hmmmmmmm. I'm considering ordering one sometime before my car's back together. I already have an SSRA. But, I'm keeping the A/C out with the new motor, and the bigger ducting should give me even more power.
yes i would recommend it, i used to have a FTRA on my car then went to the non ac version (bigger ram air) and gained 1.2mph at the track...or around ~12rwhp(this was when i was SI also, so with head and cam the gain will be slightly more)...back to back weekends keeping DA in mind...

plus i made it so the bottom portion is removable so you dont have to worry about hitting it on curbs or on and off the trailer like the SSRA...
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Originally Posted by Formula_LS1
Yep I used the AC maybe once or twice last summer (usually doesn't get too hot in Chicago), so I decided that I'd be better off without it.



I've had both and here are my results from the one WITH AC (taken from one of my older posts)...

"...this is with the DA corrected both before and after...I ran .178 seconds faster and 1.534 mph faster. Nothing else on the car was changed."

My car is SI, btw.

My car went into storage for the winter shortly after the one for non AC cars went on, but I'll have some new results in the spring.
I can't open his build thread. How does the ac have anything to do with it other than what you gain from weight reduction and the ac belt not dragging? Does the ac stuff get in the way or something? I don't see how if it comes from under the car into the air box.
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Originally Posted by edzsilverss
I can't open his build thread. How does the ac have anything to do with it other than what you gain from weight reduction and the ac belt not dragging? Does the ac stuff get in the way or something? I don't see how if it comes from under the car into the air box.
Basically, with the AC condenser out of the way, there is a lot more room. I've had both so here are some pictures I took of my car (notice the size difference of the opening where the air filter is)...

WITH AC...





WITHOUT AC...



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Originally Posted by Formula_LS1
Basically, with the AC condenser out of the way, there is a lot more room. I've had both so here are some pictures I took of my car (notice the size difference of the opening where the air filter is)...

WITH AC...





WITHOUT AC...



so you just push the radiator back some to create more room with the ac crap out of the way?


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