Your Donkey D!ck cam aint got sh*t on me...
10-19-2008, 08:30 PM
#42
He was not knocking the MS4, just posting his results with a properly matched combo.100 lbs in a 11 second car is equall to aprox 1/10.He would of run faster Friday night but it started to rain right after the track opened,like 10 minuits.The temp was on its way down .
10-19-2008, 08:33 PM
#43
He was not knocking the MS4, just posting his results with a properly matched combo.100 lbs in a 11 second car is equall to aprox 1/10.He would of run faster Friday night but it started to rain right after the track opened,like 10 minuits.The temp was on its way down .
*again.. VERY impressive times man.. regardless of what any other cam only is running.. for a cam only car that is most def. moving out!
wish i would have been running that cam only.... and yes i have the infamous Ms4.... although i was running in 85 degree weather.. haha
10-19-2008, 08:59 PM
#44
like i said i love the ms4 just didnt want it in my street car, after seeing my dads ms3's streetability...
10-20-2008, 06:37 AM
#48
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Hice one Chris, 215 or 220 cc heads (5.3L) ported and you'll get your low 10s
I have a guy here running "El Torro"s big brother, 236/236, and he is in the 10.4x cam only, YPT4200, stock 10 bolt, 3:23 gears + bolt ons 3300 weight.
Those XFI/XE-R no split cams are putting out some serious trq. Mind you, as I always say, you should take a lot of credit for paying attention to detail, degreing the cam and such...
I have a guy here running "El Torro"s big brother, 236/236, and he is in the 10.4x cam only, YPT4200, stock 10 bolt, 3:23 gears + bolt ons 3300 weight.
Those XFI/XE-R no split cams are putting out some serious trq. Mind you, as I always say, you should take a lot of credit for paying attention to detail, degreing the cam and such...
10-20-2008, 08:57 AM
#50
Chris....
Nice times, gives me hope. I have the exact same cam with TEA 5.3 heads, 4k performabuilt verter, and 3.42
I am hoping for 11's but I only made 393 unlocked, so I think there is more in my tune.
Nice times, gives me hope. I have the exact same cam with TEA 5.3 heads, 4k performabuilt verter, and 3.42
I am hoping for 11's but I only made 393 unlocked, so I think there is more in my tune.
10-20-2008, 12:03 PM
#51
TECH Senior Member
Cam only I recommend 7.425 all around. That should minimise valvetrain noise.
springs Patriot Dual "Gold" or PRCs Duals.
At that ICL it has very safe PTV margins.
Also, and Chris knows, I recommend DEGREING this cam at that ICL. That can be as much as 15rwhp. Not all grinds are the same, degreing ensures valve events.
10-20-2008, 12:13 PM
#52
Let's just put it this way. My old car was cam only with the MS4. I loved it and had a blast with the car. It was sort of a DD (I have a company car to drive around if needed, and used it for work), and sometimes it was a pain in certain situations to drive my car, but I think it was worth it. I now have a '98 6spd. If I were to do a cam again, it would be a 224 or 228 max. The MS4 is a great cam, but isn't for everyone, and success can be had with much smaller cams too. I think this is what Chris is trying to say.
10-20-2008, 01:54 PM
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By the way guys, it is called the "El Torro" cam, "The Bull", ICL is 109*
Cam only I recommend 7.425 all around. That should minimise valvetrain noise.
springs Patriot Dual "Gold" or PRCs Duals.
At that ICL it has very safe PTV margins.
Also, and Chris knows, I recommend DEGREING this cam at that ICL. That can be as much as 15rwhp. Not all grinds are the same, degreing ensures valve events.
Cam only I recommend 7.425 all around. That should minimise valvetrain noise.
springs Patriot Dual "Gold" or PRCs Duals.
At that ICL it has very safe PTV margins.
Also, and Chris knows, I recommend DEGREING this cam at that ICL. That can be as much as 15rwhp. Not all grinds are the same, degreing ensures valve events.
10-20-2008, 02:14 PM
#54
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10-20-2008, 04:36 PM
#57
Hice one Chris, 215 or 220 cc heads (5.3L) ported and you'll get your low 10s
I have a guy here running "El Torro"s big brother, 236/236, and he is in the 10.4x cam only, YPT4200, stock 10 bolt, 3:23 gears + bolt ons 3300 weight.
Those XFI/XE-R no split cams are putting out some serious trq. Mind you, as I always say, you should take a lot of credit for paying attention to detail, degreing the cam and such...
I have a guy here running "El Torro"s big brother, 236/236, and he is in the 10.4x cam only, YPT4200, stock 10 bolt, 3:23 gears + bolt ons 3300 weight.
Those XFI/XE-R no split cams are putting out some serious trq. Mind you, as I always say, you should take a lot of credit for paying attention to detail, degreing the cam and such...
10-20-2008, 04:40 PM
#59
Let's just put it this way. My old car was cam only with the MS4. I loved it and had a blast with the car. It was sort of a DD (I have a company car to drive around if needed, and used it for work), and sometimes it was a pain in certain situations to drive my car, but I think it was worth it. I now have a '98 6spd. If I were to do a cam again, it would be a 224 or 228 max. The MS4 is a great cam, but isn't for everyone, and success can be had with much smaller cams too. I think this is what Chris is trying to say.
10-20-2008, 04:48 PM
#60
we have almost the exact values with our cars..
Check it out
Chris's Cam - 230/230 .612/.592 111+2
Intake Valve opens - 6
Intake Valve closes - 44
Exhaust Valve Opens - 48
Exhaust Valve Closes - 2
Exhaust Centerline - 113
Overlap - 8
My Cam - 228/232 .588/.595 110+4
Intake Valve opens - 8
Intake Valve closes - 40
Exhaust Valve Opens - 50
Exhaust Valve Closes - 2
Exhaust Centerline - 114
Overlap - 10
Not too far off. if i had susp, and a 9" with some DRs i would be all over you
