Buy what you want not what others say you should. Why be a h8r? Just do the research and figure out what you need for your goals and no one elses. If it's a daily driver meant to just sound bad and use the lower rpms then get a mild cam. But, if your looking at something for the higher rpms of say the track then get the big cam.

 

What? Why would you do that? The car will drive fine at normal RPMs. When you decide to race, you can SHIFT. I know, it's a magical, strange concept. If you're leaving from a redlight and want to nail it, you should have an appropriate stall or launch from a high RPM. I know, common sense is tough sometimes.


Yet again, why would they start racing at low RPM instead of shifting to the proper RPM? Whoever does that is a retard!


Finally, someone who can THINK.

Look, I'm not saying a bigger or smaller cam is a good choice. Just that the argument about losing races is retarded since people SHIFT GEARS. Heck, I say if someone has sense they'll use a small cam and go FI.

 

OMG what happends when I race someone from 2K rpms and I shift at 4K.



I wish I had a small cam. than I could do rolls from 40 with bikez and keep it in 5th gear

 

ok if this is a DD, then why do you want to spin the motor to 5.5k+ just to feel any power? i understand that the huge cams make some power down low but compared to the smaller/medium cams its nothing.

plus its not all about hp, its about the curve. my curve as well as many other moderate cam owners have very broad curves whereas the huge cams have mountain slopes that really dont begin to pull until your 5k and up.

like i said before, donkey dick cams are GREAT for the track, considering that you spend 99% of the time at very high rpms thus where the big cams shine but on the street its the complete opposite. sure i wind my car out every once in a while but for the moderate driver who isnt looking for the most extreme setup that makes USUABLE power driving around town the smaller cams are the better choice because we dont have to spin as high, and the increased lift on the bigger cams put added stresses on parts which shortens there life big time! why do you people defend the big cams like they are gold? they have no bottom end and hardly any midrange yet u think they are the best for a DD b/c they make the most power? thats retarded.

why dont we compare a car with bolt ons and a small cam vs the same car with same bolt ons and huge cam.....i bet it would be almost too close to call if not dead even but the smaller cammed car will have better street mannors, be easier on parts while still accomplishing the same goal

 

230/230 is plenty...look in sig for results...save the big cams for track only cars...

 

i like my 224. big cam guys compliment on the effortless pull at any rpm with no highs or lows.

 

i see u have a streetsweeper cam do u dd it?? how is its street manners?? its the cam i plan on getting soon....

 

because i dont race people at midragne(3k rpms) i could give a **** how i pick up there...

same reasons i have a 4k stall and 410s... i want to go fast at wide open throttle.. ms4 helps me do this... i could give two ***** if someone pulls on me half throttle..


i hate this question..

 

i wouldnt care if i had the fastest car in the world at 1/2 throttle a car that picked up like a stock ls1 at 1/2 throttle..

people who talk about small cams being better for DD just because there is more "usable" power (as in 2-4krpms) are on something... reevaluate why you think that...

 

I have my donkey dick because it drives like stock at low rpms & I can kick *** when I want to. There is still plenty of power to pass anyone I want on the street. It's not like I'm towing stuff where I really need the low end torque lol.

 

I have a good tune.. mike@NewEra Its great, I drive the car everywhere.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...086&highlight=

 

Fast n Furious Voice on- I know why you couldnt hit 4th...."You weren't double clutchin like ya should"

 

I like my "small" cam and I don't street race because I have respect for others on the road.

I went from a 226/228(585 588( to a 220/228(607 600) and picked up power under the curve and even BEAT the top end of my old cam by a couple HP(pretty much matched).

Car is very fun to drive and scoots around well. I never see above 5krpm unless I'm trying to show off to myself and that's VERY rare.

 

Do you guys pull trailers with your camaros?

To each his own, but I don't care about climbing a mountain at 1700 rpm and feeling big block torque in this car. I do appreciate that feeling, but the big cam guys (me) are probably more into full throttle, all out racing. With my converter and shift points I couldn't lug the motor below 3800rpm with any throttle if I tried. I shift at 6400 and it drops to 5100, that's all the powerband I need to spank an RV cammed car.

Gas mileage wise? You win, good fer you.

 

I doubt your street sweeper cam is big by todays standards.

 

Seems to be the case more times than not on the street. A buddies small cam only Z06 ran dead even with another guys G5X3/ported 243 Z06 on the street.



Seems a lot of the daily driver type cars on here still have a stock bottom end such as myself, so does that limit what RPM's I can turn or should I just get a Beck intake and and turn it till the donkey cam peaks at 7,000?

 

I agree that you don't NEED a huge cam to be fast but there are a lot of variables to who wins the race. You can't just say his car had cam X which beat Joe's cam Z so X is a better cam.

I've outrun a 440 magnum cuda on the street. Is that because of the stock LS1's massive torque that embarrasses big-blocks?

 

No, but a properly spec'd cam for the combo will always run better than sticking the biggest cam that will clear in a car with stock heads like I see a lot doing. I had that mindset once too though.

 

Did the same person tune both cars?

 

slip the clutch more, or in my case just nail it with a big converter :-)