Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Red or blue loctite?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-17-2013, 07:28 AM
  #21  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (15)
 
wildcamaro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Western PA
Posts: 2,501
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

Blue loctite on cam retainer and rocker bolts here with no issues...but everyone likes to do their own thing, I go by the GM service manual myself...
Old 08-19-2013, 12:21 AM
  #22  
8 Second Club
iTrader: (16)
 
soundengineer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago IL
Posts: 4,651
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts

Default

There is an actual torque spec for red and blue loctite...
It varies based on bolt size and thread...
But more or less...40+ ft-lbs should get red
Everything else should get blue...
And only use the green stuff if you never want to get the bolt out again...LOL.

I also like to use the rule...if it rotates. It gets red...
Old 08-20-2013, 03:49 PM
  #23  
Launching!
iTrader: (3)
 
1999Firehawkls7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 228
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Red Loctite ONLY on the Balancer Bolt ALWAYS and the right Trq Spec.

Blue on the Cam gear and Cam retainer plate AS LONG AS you use brake clean in the tapped holes and on threads of the bolts to get the oils off them, Ive seen many times Loctite fail because theres oil on the same surface

ALSO used blue on the Baancer Bolt and had the Balancer come loose on some of our first cam jobs (learned the hard way) now Red ONLY lol
Old 08-21-2013, 08:13 AM
  #24  
8 Second Club
iTrader: (16)
 
soundengineer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago IL
Posts: 4,651
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by 1999Firehawkls7
Red Loctite ONLY on the Balancer Bolt ALWAYS and the right Trq Spec.

Blue on the Cam gear and Cam retainer plate AS LONG AS you use brake clean in the tapped holes and on threads of the bolts to get the oils off them, Ive seen many times Loctite fail because theres oil on the same surface

ALSO used blue on the Baancer Bolt and had the Balancer come loose on some of our first cam jobs (learned the hard way) now Red ONLY lol
the stock Balancer Bolt is a Torque to Yield Stretch bolt....
no locktite needed on a stock bolt....already has a small amount of red compound on it, doesnt need extra

if you stretch it properly like the Factory Spec says to, you will never have a problem with it backing out.
seat it with the old bolt......
then its 38ft lbs, and then 140* past that.

a little different story on a non stretch bolt like an ARP, and if you follow their instructions, you wont have an issue with that either

using an impact gun is not putting the Balancer on Correctly....good to get it seated, but that is it...
Old 08-21-2013, 08:30 AM
  #25  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (4)
 
ckpitt55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 823
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

If the threads are steel, I'll use loctite. Blue if stationary, red if it's critical.

In aluminum, I'll install with a drop of oil or use a moly-based lube if it's arp hardware. It becomes way too easy to f*ck up aluminum threads when you add adhesives to the fasteners - especially when the joint is dry and/or the bolt is stainless steel. The adhesives work a little too well in that case. I work with aluminum every day and sometimes it seems if you so much as look at it the wrong way threads gall up or become distorted. I much prefer to install lube to act as a corrosion buffer and rely on proper bolt stretch to keep things together in that situation.
Old 08-21-2013, 10:55 AM
  #26  
Launching!
iTrader: (3)
 
1999Firehawkls7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 228
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by soundengineer
the stock Balancer Bolt is a Torque to Yield Stretch bolt....
no locktite needed on a stock bolt....already has a small amount of red compound on it, doesnt need extra

if you stretch it properly like the Factory Spec says to, you will never have a problem with it backing out.
seat it with the old bolt......
then its 38ft lbs, and then 140* past that.

a little different story on a non stretch bolt like an ARP, and if you follow their instructions, you wont have an issue with that either

using an impact gun is not putting the Balancer on Correctly....good to get it seated, but that is it...
I have followed the Factory Specs and still had issues my self and seen them come loose on other ppl, Follow Instrutions AND use Red Loctite and I never had a issue since

Last edited by 1999Firehawkls7; 08-21-2013 at 11:58 AM.
Old 08-21-2013, 02:46 PM
  #27  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (6)
 
Ronny_02_WS6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: El Paso, TX
Posts: 540
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

I've always used the red successfully, the blue bottle (High Temp) just for the extra insurance!!!
Old 08-21-2013, 03:32 PM
  #28  
On The Tree
 
2000ultraZ1911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: new castle PA
Posts: 180
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I've always went by there specs blue ifs its a smaller bolt with less tq or red if its a bigger bolt with more tq.



Quick Reply: Red or blue loctite?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:45 AM.