Originally Posted by lemons12

this is true..

although i dont buy into the ms3 isnt a good choice because it doesnt make power until blah blah blah.......
if your racing, your at WOT... which means your going to run all the way up until 6500rpms or whatever your shifting at.. other than that.. doesnt matter what rpms you make power or dont make power with...

that is the reason i recommended the torquer 2 or 3... both very good cams and a tad smaller than the ms3 ms4..

224 is a bit small for my taste.. i would go with at least a 230ish cam.. but thats just me.. and im no guru..

Originally Posted by nalmak

i think im gonna go with the torquer 2 or 3..It seems good..Now i need my 241's...Oh BTW if you are just swapping heads do you still have to take the cam out or can you leave it in??

Originally Posted by lemons12

you can do heads and the cam can stay in the car... the intake will come off, along with headers dipstick valve covers power steering yada yada yada..

Originally Posted by nalmak

Ok..I swear my brain is melting from all this..I need some help like Whitney Houston on Crack..I plan on installing Cam/Heads/Intake/LT/X-Pipe or H, maybe going down to 3:73 (but 4:10's are too much fun!)..Anyway..I know Ls6 Intake is a must from a Ls1, New Oil Pump, Double Roller. etc etc..I know all that..I have been reading Patrick G's Cam Write-up, and been scrolling the boards reading about cam's and heads..I'm totally lost now..I know 243 are better than 241's, but i could get some cheap 241's port them and be good but i loose compression, i don't want a track car its only gonna a be a street killer thats all..Vr3, VR2, MS3, those camshafts are almost the same but whats the difference?,,What is the best street cam here?, Should i use 1.7 adjustable or 1.8 or non adjustable rockers?..PVC..What springs are good matched with a head and cam will a VR3, with 918's on a P&P 241 clear?..Need Mad Help....Thanks Guys

Originally Posted by rice4eatingnotdrivin

sorry to jump in on ur thread nalmak but there is one question that i dont think has been answered... is there any PVC issues with any of the cams mentioned with stock heads???

Originally Posted by kain01

Car Craft has some good advice on what's needed to get at least 500 horses naturally aspirated. It's basic advice, leaving the ultimate build up to you. Just remember the things they suggest can be had for alot cheaper than summit racing sells them for.

Still it's good information for anyone to have.

http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...ons/index.html

Originally Posted by kain01

Mind you he nor I ever said rear wheel horsepower. All those mods should net you 500 flywheel I would think.

Originally Posted by kain01

Mind you he nor I ever said rear wheel horsepower. All those mods should net you 500 flywheel I would think.

Originally Posted by kain01

Yeah most people usually talk RWHP on here so it's a safe assumption. You are absolutely correct on the other adders for 500 RWHP. The rest of the articles a good read too, but covers all kinds of engines.

Jeez I can't wait to get started on my car......wishing for 15k to pop in my lap....lol

Originally Posted by kain01

Yeah most people usually talk RWHP on here so it's a safe assumption. You are absolutely correct on the other adders for 500 RWHP. The rest of the articles a good read too, but covers all kinds of engines.

Jeez I can't wait to get started on my car......wishing for 15k to pop in my lap....lol

Originally Posted by lemons12

no..


the only cams that that begins to start becoming a problem with are the ms4, polluter, trex.. then you have to use stock valves and shiznit..
you cant run regular 5.3 2.5s prc ls6 stg 2.5s...

you can use prc ls6 stg 1s and so on..

anything with stock valve sizes it will clear.

Originally Posted by nalmak

Thanks for the Info..Much Appreciated..Wish i had the same thing happen to me, only 15k every week....That way I might be able to get a discounted rate on Paris Hilton and Jessica Simpson..The going rate is pretty low I heard..J/K

Originally Posted by kain01

If the going rate is low, how many others got the discounted rates for them to have that much money???? o.0

Ok I'm done hijacking the thread, can't speak for others though......

Originally Posted by nalmak

Good to know that i can install the T2 with some 241 and be cool on PTC. But i might go with double springs just to be on the safe side, Xe-R or whatever lobes I heard are pretty aggressive, Maybe Ferrea Valves????..(Did i spell that right..Ahhh U know what i mean..

Originally Posted by lemons12

yea you will be fine.....

i too would go with duals.. no reason not too.. just added precaution..

http://texas-speed.com/shop/item.asp...d=173&catid=48
http://texas-speed.com/shop/item.asp...d=172&catid=48

Originally Posted by nalmak

Thanks Guys..Much Appreciated

Originally Posted by blue98Z

To the OP, what about the VRX4. It's kind of in the middle I also I think. I'm running that untuned at the moment and like it alot and cant wait to see the results after a good tune.