jarednut4ever

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I know this topic has been beat to death but I can't seem to find anyone who has done this swap with an auto with a stock converter. I have a 02 SS a4, Lid, Tune, No cats, I plan on getting the ls1 Hotcam Kit, Pushrods, pacesetter long tubes, ory with a cutout, and upping shifts to 6300 rpm. Right now I run a 13.14-13.25 @ 105.4. I am wanting to run a 12.6 @ 110. Is this possible with a stock converter and stock gears 3.23. Let me know thanks, Jared

01ws666

my buddy with a 01 ws6 was running 13.2 @ 105 then he did pacesetter lt's and a hottcam and a tci 3k stall on nitto's with a 1.8 or 1.9 60' his best was a 12.14 @ 113... I believe he put down 386rwhp 375rwtq. Why dont you want a converter it helps alot! just a lid/catback and a 3k stall i was hittin 12.7 @107. then 3.73's and full exh. got me 12.5 @110 on a slower 60'

jarednut4ever

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I don't want to break the rear end yet. Plus I like to race on street tires

stylezunknown

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yes its possible. Get some 3.73 gears if you dont want to change out your stall. my car likes to get side ways after 1st gear so i hope you got some good hooking street tires. the hotcam is small but its enough to throw you into the wall if your tires suck.

ABQ99TA

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This statement will change once you have a cam and headers.

MadMike96

it will help alot

the_merv

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You can race on street tires, you just can't launch for ****..lol

jarednut4ever

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Ya I kind of wondered that because after I tuned it myself with hp tuners when the car shifts to second right know it kicks sideways so I'm sure after long tubes and cam the extra 30-35 horse at the wheels will be fun. I am just wondering if this cam will be a turd out of the hole or if it will be the same as stock. My buddy has a tsp224r on a stock stall and it really turded it out down low til 3000+ rpms. I don't want that to happen.

ABQ99TA

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Any cam car should already have a stall don't put a cam in the car with out a stall. A guy with headers/stall and no cam will eat your lunch at the track. You should gain more than 30-35whp with headers and a cam. I gained 72whp with just the cam install.

jarednut4ever

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Well I don't want a stall because things will break. I will get a stall in 1-2 years when car is paid for. I am just asking if I will see a gain with the hotcam and headers on a stock stall.

01FbTaWs6

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man, your worrying too much about the rear breaking. First off your an auto, its WAY more forgiving on the weak rears then a 6 speed. Second, there are NUMEROUS cars pulling sub 1.6 60 ft times on 10 bolts. Stall it and be very happy with the decision....

jp74

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+1 especially with the strong 3.23's. A fellow member on the site had numerous 1.6's runs for three years without an issue. When I say numerous I mean probably 200 passes.

A 3.5k stall will drop you down to mid to low 12's if you have some drag radials. As long as you get a quality tranny cooler you should be be good.

I have been racing for 2 years with a stall and have not had one issue with the car.

Do yourself a favor and get a stall first. You won't regret it.

jarednut4ever

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So if I get a 4000ss do I need to replace the flex plate or will the stocker work for a while.

ABQ99TA

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I understand not wanting to break your rearend. But with the concern with your ET, headers and a stall is your first step. I think your rearend will be fine with header and a stall but if you roll race more than you run at the track get the cam. If your going to get a cam start with a 224 or some thing in that range the hot cam is cool but made to run with gm style springs (ls6) and you can do much better than that. Or you could give Pred or Pat G a PM and get somthing that will work for what you want, if you want a stock stall then they can get you where you need to be. Good luck with you mods

jarednut4ever

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Too me it looks like the hotcam actually makes more power from idle to 4500 compared to the 224+ cams

jarednut4ever

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I have read that the Cheatr from Thunder and ls1 hotcam have a similar curve with the hotcam being more off the line and the cheatr more of a up high cam. I am just wanting to gain .3 - .4 tenths from headers and a hotcam.

antonio84

I got a 3500 stall with 4:10s on ET streets for a year now and i havent had any problems yet and thats with me launching the hell out of it

jarednut4ever

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I do more street racing then drag strip so I like some mph. I think with the hotcam I could trap around 110-112 which would be good for winning street races

antonio84

well that makes two of us i have never ran my car at the track just on the street just letting u know that u dont have to worry about blowing the rear-end on your car, I know a couple of guys here that ran 10s with a stock rear-end on A4.

ABQ99TA

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If you street race more why so worried about 1500-3000 rpm you spend hardly any time in that range, or your ET for that matter. A 224 cam is going to give you all you are looking for. If you really want the hot cam go and get it but you will only want more later, why do it twice get, the 224 or better the first time.