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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 10:35 PM
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Alright guys I'm wanting to pull the trigger on a cam and stall here in the upcoming months and feel like having a custom spec'd cam by Patrick G or someone would be my best bet.

The car is a FULL weight 2001 WS6
It is a fair weather only car
Driven <3000 miles a year
Driveability is not top priority
95% street car with 4-5 track visits a year
Would like to maintain the function of AC etc.

Mods are as follows:

MTI Lid
Ported/Polished and modified Throttle Body
LPP 321 Stainless Longtube Headers and Off Road Y-Pipe
Borla Adjustable Exhaust
QA1 Coil-overs
UMI Subframe Connectors
BMR Loop
UMI Adjustable Panhard Rod
Dynotune Dry Shot (100 Shot)
Billet Specialties Street Lites 17x7 and 17x11, Mickey Thompson 315 Drag Radials

Planning on a Yank SS3600 or SS4000.
Will be using the stock LS6 Intake for the time being.

I would really like to get set up with a decent sized cam with good under the curve power that will be a good compromise between street and strip.

Let me know if there are any other things that need to be considered to make a good decision. thanks to anyone that helps!
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:35 AM
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could go for something like the Futral F13 HL cam

should give good gains, rough idle but still tune pretty tame for the auto.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 09:02 AM
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could go for something like the Futral F13 HL cam

should give good gains, rough idle but still tune pretty tame for the auto.
so thats basically cam with moderate duration and high lift? what are the advantages of the higher lift F13 vs. the standard F13?

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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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more lift can increase power by getting better air flow. they are more aggressive lobes.

more lift shouldn't affect drivability much.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 05:37 PM
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if I were to purchase everything from Futral, what of the available dual spring kits would you go with? Are titanium retainers necessary?

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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 05:43 PM
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yes i believe the retainers are necessary. factory retainers only work on beehive springs.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 05:58 PM
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Why not something more like a Trak package with dual springs by thunder racing
231/234 .640/.590 112 LSA

Do you want something choppy, sleaper, in between, when do you want power to come in
early 224 1700 rpm
late Trex 3500 rpm
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by somws6bird
Why not something more like a Trak package with dual springs by thunder racing
231/234 .640/.590 112 LSA

Do you want something choppy, sleaper, in between, when do you want power to come in
early 224 1700 rpm
late Trex 3500 rpm
No reason not to try. I'm completely unbiased.

Choppy is fine, doesn't need to be a sleeper at all. I like obnoxious haha.
I don't want to jeopardize the longevity of the stock bottom end so probably something that comes on mid power band. not something thats real peaky and that I'll have to spin to the moon.

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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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i would go with an MS3, lift is high and so is the duration and it wont outflow your stock heads unlike some of the other big cams and it makes good power all the way around, and you can get it on a 113 LSA that will like that 100 shot alot. a 3600-4000 would be perfect for that set up. good luck!
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you gotta spin the MSx cams pretty high to get max power.

little lower duration should still make good power, all across the rpm range and you shouldn't have to go much above 6500rpm.

someplace there was a thread that i was posting in, numbers on an MS3 cam. the guy had similar mods to mine, and made +30hp peak than my 233 cam....but his torque was horrible. he made like 8# more peak, and at 3500rpm he was 20-30# below me.

something to think about
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Originally Posted by teke184
you gotta spin the MSx cams pretty high to get max power.

little lower duration should still make good power, all across the rpm range and you shouldn't have to go much above 6500rpm.

someplace there was a thread that i was posting in, numbers on an MS3 cam. the guy had similar mods to mine, and made +30hp peak than my 233 cam....but his torque was horrible. he made like 8# more peak, and at 3500rpm he was 20-30# below me.

something to think about
yeah I'd really like something thats going to benefit me across the powerband
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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I would PM Chris1313. He has something like a 230/230 and makes good power and runs some pretty impressive times with it.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 08:48 PM
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i will save you the pm haha...check out my cam it sounds like exactly what you want for a track/street car best of both world, a great balanced cam...

here are some threads i found

recent times
https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...l#post10534344

good ram air thread that helps with my times

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...ml#post9413430

idle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpU-CC5OOM0

another good thread lot of questions

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...ack-times.html

and dyno

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...g-problem.html

good luck deciding...hit me up if you got any questions man
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by chrs1313
i will save you the pm haha...check out my cam it sounds like exactly what you want for a track/street car best of both world, a great balanced cam...

here are some threads i found

recent times
https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...l#post10534344

good ram air thread that helps with my times

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...ml#post9413430

idle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpU-CC5OOM0

another good thread lot of questions

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...ack-times.html

and dyno

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...g-problem.html

good luck deciding...hit me up if you got any questions man
Looks like you got a nice cam only set up there Chrs1313
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 01:58 PM
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Looks like you got a nice cam only set up there Chrs1313
thanks man, hopefully this ported 92 i just got will add another 10rwhp or so...
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 08:35 PM
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24X/24X 112 will make plenty of steam, but your 17's arent going to get you much traction, since you can't put any real sidewall tire to them imo. If you look at chris's car, the small cam combo, it runs the number but has the chassis to go with it.
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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24X/24X 112 will make plenty of steam, but your 17's arent going to get you much traction, since you can't put any real sidewall tire to them imo. If you look at chris's car, the small cam combo, it runs the number but has the chassis to go with it.
mightymouse was going 9's on the same sized tire....provided he was hauling a lot of *** on the big end of the track but he was still launching hard.
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 10:41 PM
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4000 stall and a 315, goodluck. Use something in the mid 230's then on a 111. Since it's 95% street, I don't like the 24X I suggested then.
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