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Old 01-28-2009, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by maggiemike
maybe he's hitting overdrive? My friend says his 04 GTO shifts into OD while WOT, maybe you can program our cars to do that?

Yeah I'm in OD when crusing and at that speed. At the track I stay in 3rd/D through the traps.


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Old 01-28-2009, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by MATTREDSS
Yeah I'm in OD when crusing and at that speed. At the track I stay in 3rd/D through the traps.


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does your car shift into OD while wide open throttle though?
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Originally Posted by maggiemike
does your car shift into OD while wide open throttle though?

If its in OD at wot, it will kick down and then shift up 2-3, 3-4.
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Yea it'll shift into 4th while you're wot? maybe there's something special in the 02 programming, my 98 won't shift into 4th while i'm wot, maybe I can find a way to program it...i'll have to post up in the tranny section
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It should work fine

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Old 01-28-2009, 03:45 PM
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That stall is not near enough for a TREX!!! You need at least 4200 or bigger!! I had a forged heads/cam 348ci with a TREX V2, and it pulled like a freight train from 4000-up, but under 4000rpms it was like playing a waiting game for it to come alive! If you stay with a 3600 stall, go with a G5X2, or X3, or something comparable. You will most certainly not be happy with a TREX and 3600 stall.
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I'm leaning towards the ms3. should work well with the 3600 stall from what i've seen. i'll be doing either 373s or 410s too. probably doing those first because only being able to spin one tire seems to be a bit more pressing than doing a cam lol if anyone has any reason I shouldn't go with an ms3 i'm all ears
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on the WOT topic, my car shifted into OD racing my buddies vette, this was at around 130ish with 26 inch tires and at 6300
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Originally Posted by stumprrp
on the WOT topic, my car shifted into OD racing my buddies vette, this was at around 130ish with 26 inch tires and at 6300
wow i gotta figure out why mine stays in 3rd and won't shift wot
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Originally Posted by stumprrp
why dont you try a smaller cam like a torquer v2-3 or 228? with the 150 shot and a huge cam i think the stock tranny will **** the bed.
i know a guy running an ms3 and hitting it with a large shot of nitrous with the stock trans with a shift kit and the corvette servo. i've got the tranny set pretty much to the max WOT so it doesn't burn out the clutches/bands, but we'll see what happens this year. it's quite possible that a lot of stuff will break this year lol
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Originally Posted by MATTREDSS
You can call bs all you want, I know what I have done.I have been side by side with numerous cars at that speed, of course I'm in OD. My speedo is recalibrated btw. I don't why your is stopping at 135? What rpm are you at?

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send me a PM when your tranny takes a ****... shouldnt be long..

Originally Posted by maggiemike
wow i gotta figure out why mine stays in 3rd and won't shift wot
it stays in 3rd so you dont **** your transmission up.. its good it wont shift to OD... your transmission would get WAY too hot..
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also, im just going to toss out my opinion here. I think you would be money ahead to get a custom grind from slohawk or PatrickG. For a couple of reasons. First off its taylored to your setup, and what you want to do with the car. Second, you can quite possibly get a smaller duration cam and get the same or better results as the MS3/MS4/TRex. Third, if smaller duration it will give you abit easier tuning, and alot better drivability. Just my 3 pennies worth.
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Originally Posted by lemons12
send me a PM when your tranny takes a ****... shouldnt be long..
Does the trans really get that hot shifting into OD? I am not be sarcastic, I really want to know.
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Originally Posted by MATTREDSS
Does the trans really get that hot shifting into OD? I am not be sarcastic, I really want to know.
yes it gets VERY hot.. even with a good tranny cooler..

i looked into it because i was pissed about it at first.. and then once i did my research i was happy about it..

i would get someone to tune it to where it wont allow OD in WOT.. it is NOT a good idea at all.. and i would rather lower my top speed than replace my tranny..

if you want to know more about it, just do some research, there are quite a few threads about it..
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Ok cool, I rather it limit me than blow my trans. I will def do some research about it.


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Originally Posted by MATTREDSS
Ok cool, I rather it limit me than blow my trans. I will def do some research about it.


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yea.. i like racing bikes so it kinda sucks that my limit is 135 right now... thats the reason im going to a bit taller tire and probably 390s later..

but like said by both.. i would much rather that, that ruin my trans..
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slowhawk told me right out my tranny is probably toast with the new power from the cam, lol, any contest for our cars Mike?

when i was in overdrive i had a burning smell in my car for a while so yes it gets reallll friggin hot.
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Originally Posted by stumprrp
slowhawk told me right out my tranny is probably toast with the new power from the cam, lol, any contest for our cars Mike?

when i was in overdrive i had a burning smell in my car for a while so yes it gets reallll friggin hot.
our trannys can actually handle a good little bit, as long as they stay N/A through an ls1.. nitrous is usually what does them in....

this is taking for granted your arent going ridiculous speeds, and doing stupid stuff.. normal 1/8 and 1/4 racing, and or DD
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I'm confused about the not shifting into 4th WOT. Are you in the right gear position?

How does it overheat the trans though? If it did how do cars hit their top speeds if not WOT? I understand the transmission output shaft (and therefore planetary gear sets and holding clutchs) are spinning extremely fast, but that would be a speed issue, not a load issue. So it would be basically like saying you just can't go over that MPH, WOT or not.... guess I'm off to do research too
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Originally Posted by FiredUpZ28
I'm confused about the not shifting into 4th WOT. Are you in the right gear position?

How does it overheat the trans though? If it did how do cars hit their top speeds if not WOT? I understand the transmission output shaft (and therefore planetary gear sets and holding clutchs) are spinning extremely fast, but that would be a speed issue, not a load issue. So it would be basically like saying you just can't go over that MPH, WOT or not.... guess I'm off to do research too
hahaha... i read that and i was omg, do some research.. then i read your last statement..

and yes i was in D.. when i first tried to get my top speed.. i kicked it.. it pulled EXTREMELY hard to the 130-140ish mark and then just stopped.. it for SURE didnt run out of power (i have plenty of that) it just ran out of gear.. i tried it 2-3 more times after that.. i thought the same thing as you said, i thought maybe i hit my shifter into 3 or something.. but i didnt.. did 3 more pulls and same thing every time.. went back and told a buddy and he said it was set like that to save my tranny from over heating and destroying itself, asked a car buddy that rebuilds trannys and he said same thing.. then i came on here and did some research, same answer..


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