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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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I bought a set of LS2 valves for my new heads, the intake valve sits in the seat fine but the exhaust valve doesn't seat like I think it should. Does this look normal or no?

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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 02:08 PM
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I don't think that is normal.
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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are they stock size. i would expect it to sit flush but i'm no pro
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 03:15 PM
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Looks bent to me.
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 03:36 PM
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looks bent to me too. take it out and roll it on a flat surface.

also looks like it has some speckles on it, a sign of detonation. i could be wrong however.
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The valves and heads are both brand new. Every exhaust valve sits the same way in the seat. The speckles in the picture is actually white paint marks.
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 03:53 PM
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are there any nicks in the seat from the cnc hitting it? my heads are getting a valve job because the one that came on them is suspect at best. if you get it figured out let us know
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 04:04 PM
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are there any nicks in the seat from the cnc hitting it? my heads are getting a valve job because the one that came on them is suspect at best. if you get it figured out let us know
Nope, the seats all look fine. I test fitted a couple different valves in every seat in the head and they're all the same.
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You don't give any details of the seat sizes in the new heads vs the valve sizes. Was any kind of valve job done on the seats? You need to paint the seats and the valve faces with machinists dye and lap them in with some compound to see where the contact pattern is.
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You don't give any details of the seat sizes in the new heads vs the valve sizes. Was any kind of valve job done on the seats? You need to paint the seats and the valve faces with machinists dye and lap them in with some compound to see where the contact pattern is.
The seats are supposed to be stock ls6 sized and fit stock valves, this is from Jason at Katech.
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Ok, well i took a look at everything real well in some good light and I think thats how its supposed to sit. The angle on the intake valve comes right to the edge of the valve and thats why it sits flush. The angle on the exhaust valve is the same, but doesn't go to the edge of the valve, so it looks like its sticking out more. I can visually see that the angle on the valve mates perfectly with the angle in the seat.
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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Mine do that. I think the exhaust valve is just thicker.
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Originally Posted by 2xLS1
You don't give any details of the seat sizes in the new heads vs the valve sizes. Was any kind of valve job done on the seats? You need to paint the seats and the valve faces with machinists dye and lap them in with some compound to see where the contact pattern is.



But you wouldnt want to paint BOTH surfaces... right? You want to see where blue paint is NOT touching. If you paint both seems to me you will not be able to tell that.
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Were the heads pressure tested? I'm guessing a high quality company like Katech would do something so simple.

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Mine do that. I think the exhaust valve is just thicker.
They typically are and that is my though also.
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 06:50 PM
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Looks normal to me. I just replaced the valves in my PP LS6 heads. The exhaust valves stand out of the head a little more. That is why more clearence is needed on the exhaust side compared to the intake side (PTV).
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.800 versus .100 . Exhaust valves are typically thicker. I have quite a few sets laying around and in every single set the exhaust valves are thicker. They are suspect to much higher material stresses due to the added heat of the exhaust gasses. They need the extra material to have comparable structural integrity to the larger, but thinner intake valves that experience less thermal stress.
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Originally Posted by Beaflag VonRathburg
Were the heads pressure tested? I'm guessing a high quality company like Katech would do something so simple.
They were bought as bare heads.
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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My AFR's were similar as well.

Use some fine lapping compound and lap them. That will help with the seal and tell you if the contact surface is incorrect. I just finished doing this on my Dart heads and they colored perfect.
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