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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 07:48 AM
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Glad to see I planted this seed in your head Jonny, of course you know that I think you need to do this asap
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:44 AM
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Heres something I posted on another C5 forum a few weeks ago.

I finished adding these parts about two weeks ago. Dyno results coming soon.

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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:45 AM
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PM'd ya back. I'll help any way I can!!!
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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Jason, any comment on post #23? Just curious about your opinion.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Uncle John
Heres something I posted on another C5 forum a few weeks ago.

I finished adding these parts about two weeks ago. Dyno results coming soon.

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Blackwing, ported TB, WCCH 5.3 L stage 2.5 heads, 2.02/1.57 w/ 63 cc chambers, 10.85:1 SCR (had stock 853 heads), MLS gasket, LS6 intake, stock cam (for now), LG Street headers, high flow cats, Borla Stingers and a tune from Ed Hutchings. I'm thinking 50 rwhp is not an unreasonable expectation with these add ons.
What did you dyno before? Graph?
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 10:02 AM
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No previous dyno results. I'm just going to use the stock dyno numbers that many others have shown on dyno runs. Generally around 305 rwhp for this year with an M6. I know its not the most scientific way but hey, thats what I've got.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 10:29 AM
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hmmm, never got it Jason.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Superman09
You hear a lot about running cam only on stock heads, but very rarely about heads only on stock cam. I have heard of a few instances and was pretty impressed with the results.

Pretty much what could I expect from bolt ons only with a set of ported LS6 or LS2 heads?

Would there be benefits to milling them to up the CR a tad?

Would you not touch the limiter since it would still be a stock cam?

What would be required tuning wise?

Any results out there with a similar set-up? Thanks!
I like the idea. The low end torque will be real nice. Look how well this guy did with the stock cam!

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...stock-cam.html
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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^^ i see that this guy used 241 castings, how much more do you think could be gained using some 243s?
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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243's may require a little bit of a cam, though a set of 5.3 heads may be the way to go just for some compression. Cant go wrong with 241's and some rockers, seems to work really well on my car. Like earlier said in this thread, 30 rwhp is easily acheivable. Thats what I picked up with just the head swap and no other changes other than touching up the tune.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 03:29 PM
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Did you need a tune after a head swap? I would think the stock tune would work pretty good but just wondering if you had any issues driving the car on the old tune after the swap.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 03:35 PM
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Heads only ?? I am very interested. I too would love to see how a set of afr 205's react to a stock cam. Would you be milling the heads ?

I reused my h/c from my 346 on my new 402 and picked up tons of power under the curve. Hows +60 rwhp and +75 rwtq at 4000 rpms sound ?? I also picked up 20 rwhp and 55 rwtq at PEAK. Can't wait to drive it.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Golf&GM
Did you need a tune after a head swap? I would think the stock tune would work pretty good but just wondering if you had any issues driving the car on the old tune after the swap.
The car wanted lots less timing up top. Zero issues with driveability, other than a little knock.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenbeanZ28
The car wanted lots less timing up top. Zero issues with driveability, other than a little knock.
how would the 243s react with a ls6 cam? do you think that would that be enough cam? i want excellent driveability and a stock sound but i also want it to fly when i get on it...
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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Aftermarket heads performance, with stock cam reliability. Sounds like a worthwhile investment.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by allngn_c5
Aftermarket heads performance, with stock cam reliability. Sounds like a worthwhile investment.
My logic exactly. Sounds like a good plan, I'm thinking you could put down 400/400 and sound pretty much like a bolt on car..... and still drive like one as well!
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 07:58 AM
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If you look at greenbean's graph, it starts around 2,600-2,700 RPM. And even at that low RPM range he's making about 370 ft. lbs. of torque and it just builds from there. To me there's no down side, and if I get tired of the power and want more I just throw a different cam in it and make some really good numbers.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by teke184
a nice small runner, high flowing , high compression head would make for an interesting build up.

would make for some nice street friendly power, and proabably gobs of torque.
what is a small runner head, the 5.3? I don't understand the push for the 5.3 head on this forum. I hear all the hype about better bottom end torque due to the smaller runner of the 5.3 and those same people saying that start the dyno runs at 3,000 rpms...

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nah, nothing like that. Kind of a personal reason I'd rather not get into, haha. Waiting to hear from Jason at TSP. Thinking maybe he can get me in with all the stuff I need
So you don't want mama to find out?
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by redbadss
how would the 243s react with a ls6 cam? do you think that would that be enough cam? i want excellent driveability and a stock sound but i also want it to fly when i get on it...
Not exactly sure so i cant really say. But, I may be putting in an LS6 cam sooner or later. I'd like to see if 460 or so would be acheivable, but would be more than happy with 450.
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