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Old 04-21-2009, 02:00 PM
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Based on this I won't be using his services, nor recommend anyone else to. That's the most BS I've seen in one post in a long time. Either do it right the first time, or you lose good business. That's how it should be.
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I would never hand port LSx heads. a CNC can do a much better job. Finishing it by hand is another preference though.

JUST SEND THEM TO TEA ask for MIKE
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Originally Posted by bigboykilroy
I would never hand port LSx heads. a CNC can do a much better job. Finishing it by hand is another preference though.

JUST SEND THEM TO TEA ask for MIKE
What proof do you have to back that up with sparky?
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u post up your 100% hand ported LSx heads and Ill post up my CNC'd heads and see what ones flow more consistantly over all.
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Originally Posted by bigboykilroy
u post up your 100% hand ported LSx heads and Ill post up my CNC'd heads and see what ones flow more consistantly over all.
Do we have the same heads where you want to do a apples to oranges comparison or do we have the same castings/runners/valves and flow benches. A broad sweeping generalization like that is just ******* stupid.

Tooley is a hell of a salesman at TEA and they do solid work, but to say a hand ported head cannot compare to a CNC'd head is ******* stupid.

Flow #'s are not everything, what about velocity and radius? What about matching the flow #'s to a cam etc? Why does your heads/cam car run almost a second slower then my heads/cammed car with hand ported heads with your motor converter vs my nitrous converter?
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Originally Posted by NaSSty Nate
Do we have the same heads where you want to do a apples to oranges comparison or do we have the same castings/runners/valves and flow benches. A broad sweeping generalization like that is just ******* stupid.

Tooley is a hell of a salesman at TEA and they do solid work, but to say a hand ported head cannot compare to a CNC'd head is ******* stupid.
I agree, where is your logic in saying a hand port job can't flow as well.
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post up lsx heads that have been 100% hand ported and let the numbers speak.

you cant get it as consistant port for port runner for runner as you can with a cnc.

My new TEA heads are being installed.......my 12.2 time is with my crappy old 806 heads....and pump gas no NOS....Impressive I know.

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Originally Posted by bigboykilroy
post up lsx heads that have been 100% hand ported and let the numbers speak.

you cant get it as consistant port for port runner for runner as you can with a cnc.
Have you ever talked to a REAL head porter or have you talked to sales guys? I respect the hell out of Brian and TEA (hell I have had a set of their heads) but I don't thing you grasp what head porting is all about. Have you ever ported anything on your own or sat down and watched a professional port and explain what they are doing and how they create velocity.

FLOW #'s are only ONE factor of heads....stop getting so focused on that. You are the typical car and drive magazine racer type.

btw my #'s are all motor, never been sprayed.
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Most now use computer modeling to see what FLOW and VELOCITY they can create and how going too far can create TURBULANCE.

Yes I do know people that use to port the old ford and chevy stuff, but even they agree that port to port runner to runner a cnc can make a more consistant job than hand porting.

you have your opinion I have mine, maybe one day we will race and see..
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Originally Posted by bigboykilroy
Most now use computer modeling to see what FLOW and VELOCITY they can create and how going too far can create TURBULANCE.

Yes I do know people that use to port the old ford and chevy stuff, but even they agree that port to port runner to runner a cnc can make a more consistant job than hand porting.

you have your opinion I have mine, maybe one day we will race and see..
Better get your junk together soon, because my car is up for sale.
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I like my junk and I like my Car and Driver it makes me feel so good....

Sorry to Jack your thread dude.....it just flat out sux that they didnt do a complete job for the $ you paid.
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Originally Posted by bigboykilroy
u post up your 100% hand ported LSx heads and Ill post up my CNC'd heads and see what ones flow more consistantly over all.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA, 'nuff said...
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So why didn't you contact hans prior to starting this thread?? You figure you would look at a set of heads that you paid $1000 dollars worth of port work.
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Originally Posted by bigboykilroy
I would never hand port LSx heads. a CNC can do a much better job. Finishing it by hand is another preference though.

JUST SEND THEM TO TEA ask for MIKE
Tool and nut swinger alert!
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Originally Posted by bigboykilroy
Most now use computer modeling to see what FLOW and VELOCITY they can create and how going too far can create TURBULANCE.

Yes I do know people that use to port the old ford and chevy stuff, but even they agree that port to port runner to runner a cnc can make a more consistant job than hand porting.

you have your opinion I have mine, maybe one day we will race and see..
You should be banned for being a total and complete dumbass. Where do you think CNC programs originate from? If you say its some dude sitting behind a computer messing with dimensions, its no wonder you feel the way you do. Unfortunately, thats simply not the case. Most all of TEA's ports are started by hand. A hand ported port took less time to make work well then it took The kid that designed the TFS head. Sad thing is it took him a little over a year to do that. Take a guy that ports heads by hand, 1 day to find more airflow in them even after he killed it the first time around by losing some flow. **** any more explanations..Just ban this Craftsman.
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Originally Posted by built408
So why didn't you contact hans prior to starting this thread?? You figure you would look at a set of heads that you paid $1000 dollars worth of port work.
Because he got screwed.... Maybe the guy should have done it right the first time.
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Look at the fastest cars just within the LSX world ,none of them are out of the box cnc ported heads.They all have additional work done by hand.Your a moron.
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Even the best cnc ports can be improved upon with some hand finishing you moron.
How do you know these things? JK Sup Aaron.
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Originally Posted by 00transamnh
Because he got screwed.... Maybe the guy should have done it right the first time.
Understand your point, but you dont accept heads unfinished that you paid for either. Both in the wrong here.
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