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Old 05-14-2009, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Spectre86
bigger port. bigger port flows more air which = higher cfm/flow numbers

you lose velocity though. so unless you have the cubic inches or forced induction to push that much air through a bigger port, your going to give up low end power.
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Flow numbers look similar to a set of TEA stage 1 LS6 heads.
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Originally Posted by Spectre86
bigger port. bigger port flows more air which = higher cfm/flow numbers

you lose velocity though. so unless you have the cubic inches or forced induction to push that much air through a bigger port, your going to give up low end power.
NO! This is a CROCK OF ****! Stop telling people this!!!!
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Originally Posted by Spectre86
bigger port. bigger port flows more air which = higher cfm/flow numbers

you lose velocity though. so unless you have the cubic inches or forced induction to push that much air through a bigger port, your going to give up low end power.
This should get good...

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Originally Posted by Spectre86
bigger port. bigger port flows more air which = higher cfm/flow numbers

you lose velocity though. so unless you have the cubic inches or forced induction to push that much air through a bigger port, your going to give up low end power.
How does an engine know at what speed a cubic foot of air is entering the cylinder?

A better question: Why are you mindlessly repeating BS that has been disproven over and over again.
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And the pack attacks

Why don't you just explain it to him? Instead of tearing him from all sides like a pack of hyenas.

And if it is too much for you Hardhorels1 to post anything smart beside blaspheme, WTF do you persist on marking your territory in this forum?

This thread was started by TFS, questions were asked, poeple await TFS comments, can't we just keep it at that?

Noooo, it is feeding time
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What would the cost of the heads be without a spring kit?
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
And the pack attacks

Why don't you just explain it to him? Instead of tearing him from all sides like a pack of hyenas.

And if it is too much for you Hardhorels1 to post anything smart beside blaspheme, WTF do you persist on marking your territory in this forum?

This thread was started by TFS, questions were asked, poeple await TFS comments, can't we just keep it at that?

Noooo, it is feeding time
Just because I post on Hardcore LS1 does not make me a nut swinger. I post on MANY web forums. How about you try not to be a hypocrite and keep YOUR mouth shut and stop trying to stir up drama.
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FYI.

I have 250cc intake runners on my heads.

I have no problems making 390ft lbs of torque with a 22x cam.
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And you make that at which rpm?
How about below that?
Is your lower than peak rpm output affected by having larger ports?
What is the relation between amount of air moved and velocity?
Does your 250cc intake have the same velocity as a smaller runner? If so why?

Better yet; why is velocity crutial? Is there anything like too much velocity? or too little?
Are intake runner size directly related to size of engine? Are your 250cc the optimum for your 346 cid? If so for what purpose?

Come on Mr Ghost, comming out and saying some comment is a crock of S*** is fine, but please explain why?
Spectre86 made a comment, you come on and flame him. Don't you think you ought to explain why?

I am not saying his comments are valid, but the manner in which you express yourself with such aggression deserves an expanation IMO.

Or is "I have 250cc intake runners and I make XXX amount of trq your explanation?"

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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
And you make that at which rpm?
How about below that?
Is your lower than peak rpm output affected by having larger ports?
What is the relation between amount of air moved and velocity?
Does your 250cc intake have the same velocity as a smaller runner? If so why?

Better yet; why is velocity crutial? Is there anything like too much velocity? or too little?
Are intake runner size directly related to size of engine? Are your 250cc the optimum for your 346 cid? If so for what purpose?

Come on Mr Ghost, comming out and saying some comment is a crock of S*** is fine, but please explain why?
Spectre86 made a comment, you come on and flame him. Don't you think you ought to explain why?

I am not saying his comments are valid, but the manner in which you express yourself with such aggression deserves an expanation IMO.

Or is "I have 250cc intake runners and I make XXX amount of trq your explanation?"
Many of us would be very interested in your technical views of the questions you just asked, Mr. PZ. Would you please share them with us? We could then have a technical discussion on that.

Am I being too aggressive?


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I knew this would get good....

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Originally Posted by Old SStroker
Many of us would be very interested in your technical views of the questions you just asked, Mr. PZ. Would you please share them with us? We could then have a technical discussion on that.

Am I being too aggressive?


Jon
Hahaha,
Nice one Jon, that is not what this is about. As usual you miss the point.
Why not let flaming Ghost fend for himself.
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ok I'm in now.

It's time for another Old SStroker v. Predator Z stand off....

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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Hahaha,
Nice one Jon, that is not what this is about. As usual you miss the point.
Why not let flaming Ghost fend for himself.
What is it about?

It was a serious technical request to you, PZ. (Have you a given name you can share?). I was trying to keep the topic technical rather than fan the flames. So how about sharing your technical views on the subject. I assume you have some.


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Old 05-18-2009, 03:04 AM
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Jon,
That would be like me asking you to give me you views on tactical support for XX Company. No thank you, you'll not draw me onto your battlefield.
I am not a head designer or porter for that matter, but I manage my way around.

The point of my reply to Mr Ghost is to quit flaming others like he knows it all (I can bring up threads from other sites to prove how much he really knows) and to quit disturbing the peace in LS1tech as part of smarthore troll pack. There are ways of discussing tech but it doesn't necessarily always involve ridicule towards others like you guys always do.
Man if all the knowledge some of you guys have would be put towards helping others instead of trying to discredit them; think of all the good tech help you could achieve?

Anything you cannot make a $$ doesn't interest you, you are here simply for 2 reasons:
1- To draw free publicilty to make a $$
2- To ridicule others and some sponsors to pump your ego and feed your free publicity.

Nice try though

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Alright here we go again!

So what would be the niche that these heads were meant to fill?
I wouldnt ever buy these, I think that I can get all that I want out of a stock casting head, but they do seem to be reasonably priced compared to the competition.

How much for bare heads?
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Yeah, really where is TFS? How about some dyno results, track results, hmmm more info
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Jon,
That would be like me asking you to give me you views on tactical support for XX Company. No thank you, you'll not draw me onto your battlefield.
I am not a head designer or porter for that matter, but I manage my way around.

The point of my reply to Mr Ghost is to quit flaming others like he knows it all (I can bring up threads from other sites to prove how much he really knows) and to quit disturbing the peace in LS1tech as part of smarthore troll pack. There are ways of discussing tech but it doesn't necessarily always involve ridicule towards others like you guys always do.
Man if all the knowledge some of you guys have would be put towards helping others instead of trying to discredit them; think of all the good tech help you could achieve?

Anything you cannot make a $$ doesn't interest you, you are here simply for 2 reasons:
1- To draw free publicilty to make a $$
2- To ridicule others and some sponsors to pump your ego and feed your free publicity.

Nice try though
You continue to provide camshaft advice, opinions and specifications to folks when you admit you have no technical knowledge of how head performance influences valve events. Amazing!

I now understand why you will not give your real name.

Jon Bauer
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Originally Posted by Old SStroker
You continue to provide camshaft advice, opinions and specifications to folks when you admit you have no technical knowledge of how head performance influences valve events. Amazing!

I now understand why you will not give your real name.

Jon Bauer
That is what you read? Put your glasses on.
Show where I said I have no technical knowledge. I said I am not a head porter nor a head designer.

My real name? many poeple know it here.
Your attemps to once again draw me into your s*** zone is not going to work. I have no ego to boost unlike yourself.

What I do on this net can or cannot be taken into consideration by anyone if they so desire. I have my ways of doing cams and have proven some pretty good results on some combos.
I do not force anyone to run any of my grinds, I do not charge anyone for any specs or advice, I'm just a gearhead and all of this keeps me in touch with what I love.

Can we get back on the TFS 205? Do you have any input, testing or anything remotely similar?

If not, poeple here are awaiting TFS feedback.


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