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Old May 29, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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how would you think a 02 ws6 a4 with full bolt ons and stock cam would gain with a set of stock ls6 heads and would it be worth it to have them milled to increase compression?
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Old May 29, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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stock ls6 heads would give you around 15 rwhp. i would definately have someone mill them to around 61cc for a good compression bump.
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Old May 29, 2009 | 02:41 PM
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Im about to put in a vrx4 cam and Im going to get some ls6 heads and have them milled 20 thousandths and prolly a lil bowl work. Im hoping to be at like 420rwhp or so. Your car should put down some pretty good numbers
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Old May 29, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by redbadss
stock ls6 heads would give you around 15 rwhp. i would definately have someone mill them to around 61cc for a good compression bump.
I would think it would be more than that. I know they flow better but wouldn't the 243s in stock form bump the compression a good bit too?
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I would think it would be more than that. I know they flow better but wouldn't the 243s in stock form bump the compression a good bit too?
yes, stock ls6 heads would bump compression from 10.1:1 to 10.5:1. ive seen different dynos show gains from 10-20rwhp, i was just giving the average gain i have seen.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 04:30 AM
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I'm not so sure milling 243's to 61cc,

Is a good idea with a stock cam. Static CR is going from 10.1 up to 10.5 with just the act of changing from 241 to 243.
61cc would put SCR over 11:1 and start the possibility of getting detonation everywhere.

Talk to a sponsor tuning shop for this type of Q.
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If you have a set it's not a bad move. Out of the box I'd expect you to see 15hp gains. It's just hard to justify all that labor & $500 for used LS6 heads to make 15hp. We sell the PRC CNC Ported LS6 Stage 1 heads for right at $1000 & they typically gain 40rwhp+ over a stock LS1 cylinder head.

Don't forget the PRC heads are also brand new castings that ship with a performance guarantee!

http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=649&catid=20
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Originally Posted by Jason 98 TA
If you have a set it's not a bad move. Out of the box I'd expect you to see 15hp gains. It's just hard to justify all that labor & $500 for used LS6 heads to make 15hp. We sell the PRC CNC Ported LS6 Stage 1 heads for right at $1000 & they typically gain 40rwhp+ over a stock LS1 cylinder head.

Don't forget the PRC heads are also brand new castings that ship with a performance guarantee!

http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=649&catid=20

wow i might just jump on this deal, if i can get my suspension first..pretty amazing
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Not to hi jack or anything, but what kind of gains would you see with a fully ported set of 243's?
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We typically see 40-50rwhp from a LS6 cnc ported PRC head install. I'll engine dyno the stock LS6 heads on a stock engine for you guys as soon as I get the new dyno cell up & running.
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Would the stage 2.5 ls6 heads with ms3 work without a fly cut?
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I gained 12rwhp and 23rwtq with stock 243's, untouched.
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 10:32 AM
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NO HP number yet, but I just put on a set of 243's that TEA CNC to Stage 2 and cut to 61cc. No issues here. I Love them !!
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It would be worth it. If your budget only allows for milling them to increase compression do it. You'll still see 20 rwhp switching from your 241's to 243's. And then later on when money or time allows you could have them fully cnc'd and gain another 20rwhp. Good investment IMO.
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just had cam,lsx lifters,pushrods,springs, oil pump,timing and put set of stock 243s and put down 410 rwhp 398 trq. 65+ gain in pwr. Thanks to Geoff @ Next Level Performance....Im very happy with the 243s. I say put em on.
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What do you mean by having them fully CNC'd? Sorry for the dumb question
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Originally Posted by 99LS6SS
What do you mean by having them fully CNC'd? Sorry for the dumb question
Ported&Polished, valve spring pockets are usually made to accomodate larger springs...heads that are cnc'd flow much better than heads that have not been "worked over".
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Originally Posted by Jason 98 TA
If you have a set it's not a bad move. Out of the box I'd expect you to see 15hp gains. It's just hard to justify all that labor & $500 for used LS6 heads to make 15hp. We sell the PRC CNC Ported LS6 Stage 1 heads for right at $1000 & they typically gain 40rwhp+ over a stock LS1 cylinder head.

Don't forget the PRC heads are also brand new castings that ship with a performance guarantee!

http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=649&catid=20

Wait is that 1000 per head? Your sight says "Base price/ea"


Originally Posted by blkbird
I gained 12rwhp and 23rwtq with stock 243's, untouched.
what were your mods at the time?
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 08:09 AM
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I thought 243's and 799's would get you 30-35rwhp? Won't a LS6 intake, heads and cam get you 60rwhp?
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 12:01 PM
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I had 2002-2003 stage II MTI LS6 heads milled 0.020 and a C1 cam and it made 415 rwhp. It is a 6 spd too.

I now have the same heads milled slighty more, fast intake, LG 5X-3 (can't remember if the 5x is right) and had an electric water and it made around 440 rwhp.
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