Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Stalls and Cams...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 1, 2009 | 10:36 PM
  #1  
hockeygirl777's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Default Stalls and Cams...

I'm looking at possibly putting a stall in my car since it's an auto but have been getting pretty mixed opinions about it. I'm just wondering how a small stall (i.e. 2800-3200) affects daily driveability. Also any suggestions as far as makers of stalls would be appreciated as well.

I've also been told that a 228 cam would probably be best for my car, any ideas as far as cams would be helpful too.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2009 | 10:45 PM
  #2  
btec hella fast duu's Avatar
Teching In
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
From: Sac, CA
Default

I have a Yank SS3400 and i love it. Once u learn how to drive the car again it feels like stock. Plus Dave has great customer service. Hope this helps.
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2009 | 08:18 AM
  #3  
usmc320's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 229
Likes: 0
From: VA
Default

I went from a stock stall to a 4000 stall that failed. Then I went with a 3600. I wish I had went with a 4000 again. I'm not sure it would be worth the trouble for anything smaller. If you're worried about driveability with a big stall just swap gears and it will be much better. I just went from 2.73s to 3.42s and was impressed with the part throttle response with the stall. It feels similar to what the stock stall with 2.73s feels like.

I would be weary of dumping too much money into the 4L60E or performance parts for it. It is a weak transmission barely adequate for the stock power of an LT1. Some people have good luck with them. I didn't on either on the Trans Ams I have had. Just something to think about.

Last edited by usmc320; Jun 2, 2009 at 08:26 AM.
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2009 | 08:38 AM
  #4  
01trans am's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 229
Likes: 0
From: alabama
Default

Yank is way to go for sure. But I went from a stock stall to my SS4000 and I can tell the difference but you get used to it. It is one of the best things I have bought for the car(untill I drive with the new parts)

As far as the cam goes it really depends on what stall you choose.
I went with the ms3 mainly because I dont DD the car and I wanted something that would work well with the larger stall. But you can talk to the guys over at Texas Speed they are very helpful and can help you find a cam that will match what you are wanting to get out of the car.
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2009 | 08:50 AM
  #5  
sroach20's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 2,318
Likes: 1
From: houston, Texas
Default

vig 3600 here and i love it. it will always be the first mod i do to any auto car i buy. it just makes driving that much more fun.
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2009 | 09:29 AM
  #6  
allbaugh_04's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,546
Likes: 19
From: Omaha, NE
Default

Originally Posted by hockeygirl777
I'm looking at possibly putting a stall in my car since it's an auto but have been getting pretty mixed opinions about it. I'm just wondering how a small stall (i.e. 2800-3200) affects daily driveability. Also any suggestions as far as makers of stalls would be appreciated as well.

I've also been told that a 228 cam would probably be best for my car, any ideas as far as cams would be helpful too.
Anywhere between 3200-3600 is about perfect for a daily driver. You'll need a tune to get the most out of it. Also, make sure you have money if they trans takes a dump on ya. You'll need a transmission cooler too.

PM me if you got any other questions about stalls..
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2009 | 10:13 AM
  #7  
Jon@Texas-Speed's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,043
Likes: 2
From: Lubbock, TX
Default

If you are looking to do a cam and converter, I would probably try to get a converter to compliment the camshaft. If you are looking at a 228R camshaft, then I would probably lean more toward a 3000-3400 stall speed converter. That particular camshaft doesn't need quite as much converter as say a MS3/MS4 sized camshaft. Of course you can go bigger on the stall, but if you aren't at the track trying to get everything you can get out of the car, then a large 4000+ stall probably isn't what you are wanting. With a lower stall speed, you will keep the car more streetable, have better gas mileage in town, and still make good gains at the track!

Let me know if you have any other questions and I'd be happy to help you out!

Jon
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2009 | 11:37 AM
  #8  
LS1Adam84's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 510
Likes: 1
From: Franklin, TN
Default

I have 3:42 gears with a custom 3k stall, my street-ability is good, I would say to do like i did and get a built trans and stall and trans cooler at the same time and do it all at once. My trans blew up so I needed a new one anyways. The 4L60E is not that bad, just need to find a place that knows them well.

Good luck and I say a lower stall is good for street-ability, gives you great road manners, something to consider is finding a 3k -3400 stall and I would say close to a 2.4 to 2.5 str, from my understanding the str is what gives you a little better street manners and the closer to 2.5 the better the manners.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-8

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jun 2, 2009 | 11:59 AM
  #9  
PREDATOR-Z's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 14,620
Likes: 17
From: BFE
Default

If you are going to cam the car then pick your cam first and match a stall to it.

You choose your stall based on your driving manners (tight or loose) and to match the cam to the stall shift extensions.
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2009 | 01:18 PM
  #10  
allthrotle's Avatar
TECH Resident
20 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 919
Likes: 0
From: Sparks,NV
Default

^^ Predator-z knows his stuff, as far as converter brands I love Yank and thats all I run.
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2009 | 01:20 PM
  #11  
LS1Adam84's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 510
Likes: 1
From: Franklin, TN
Default

Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
If you are going to cam the car then pick your cam first and match a stall to it.

You choose your stall based on your driving manners (tight or loose) and to match the cam to the stall shift extensions.
Yeah thats very true, now i have to see what cam I can use with my stall, it would have been better to do it this way.
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2009 | 03:08 PM
  #12  
colby72olds's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,733
Likes: 0
From: Arab, Al
Default

Originally Posted by karolin768
welcome to wholesale lace wigs, also provide cosplay wigs and synthetic wigs all with very high quality and best price!
WTF is this ****? There sure has been A LOT of spammers lately.

I daily drive my car with the VRX3 cam (226/228 .585 .588 114 LSA) and the Yank SS3600 and I love it. I had the stall installed first and it did awesome with just bolt ons. It's really easy to drive, you'll get used to it fast. The first time I drove my car after putting the stall in, it just felt like I was driving through a little mud or something. I can't even remember how it drove with the stock stall anymore now that I'm used to the SS3600.
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2009 | 03:31 PM
  #13  
hockeygirl777's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Default

Awesome, I've been hearing a lot from some of the local car guys that I would hate how my car would drive with a stall, but the Chevy guys I've met are all for it... once I get the money it's definitely going towards a cam and stall.

My dad was a Chevy mechanic for years so I'll have him look over my car and make sure everything is good (the tranny and all that junk)
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2009 | 03:50 PM
  #14  
nastychevelle's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 934
Likes: 1
From: troy, IL
Default

if you stall it i reccomend getting a big tranny cooler to help keep the tranny alive
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2009 | 04:02 PM
  #15  
NemeSS's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (127)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,889
Likes: 9
From: Houston,TX
Default

CIRCLE D has an excellent selection of ls tq converters. i would go a with 3500 stall and 220 duration cam
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 06:13 AM
  #16  
STEEPSS's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,334
Likes: 2
From: Ankeny, IA
Default

Originally Posted by nastychevelle
if you stall it i reccomend getting a big tranny cooler to help keep the tranny alive
quoted for truth.

I was running a Vigilante 2800 stall for a while. It would actually flash around 3200-3400 though. Vigilantes tend to do that ( flash higher than rated). But around town, it definitely made the car more fun to drive, and gas mileage was maybe slightly effected. The transmission has since gone out ( Bought the car with a stall, someone installed it incorrectly..... boom). I have since gone with a Vigilante 4000 and I love it. (As stated earlier, my 4000 actually stalls at ~4400) My in-town gas mileage has suffered, but it's an animal at the track.

I will say, the 2800 launched excellent at the track also.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 09:18 AM
  #17  
Paper-or-plastic?'s Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
From: LSX,Tx
Default

I agree on selecting a cam first then pick your stall. I would give Chris at Circle D a call after you select a cam. I had an LMR 232/234 595 cam with a 3500 Circle D converter and Drove it daily with no problems.

*Big Tranny cooler is a must*
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 11:29 AM
  #18  
colby72olds's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,733
Likes: 0
From: Arab, Al
Default

yeah, I forgot to add I have a tranny cooler too. Definitely a must with a stall!
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:40 PM.

story-0
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-1
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-3
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-5
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-8
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-9
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE