transaman98

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Well I have been asking a few questions in regard to TEA's 1.5 5.3 heads and ended up coming across chris1313's thread he posted awhile back.https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...k-times-3.html
He has put down some extremely impressive cam only numbers(track/dyno). I have a few questions about putting a similar setup in my car.
1) Does the 230/232 111+3 that predator z suggests in post #45 from the link above use the same lobe profiles as chris1313's cam (XFI/XER)
2) What heads (budget in mind) would be the best for the 230/232 111+3?
3) Currently I have comp 1.75 rockers. Would it be adviseable to run these with this cam? Or would I be better off going back to 1.7's?

As I stated in my last post I would like to run 11.50's with whatever I end up going with for my new h/c setup.

My mods are as follows.
1998 Trans Am:
Hooker 1 3/4" Longtubes
QTP ORY-pipe with Flowmaster dual 3"-4" Merge with 4" cutout
Magnaflow Catback
224/230 .581/.592 114lsa (X-ER lobes)
Comp 1.75 rockers
Vigilante 3200 Stall
LS6 Intake Manifold
Stock Rear with 3.23's
Full Weight Car

PREDATOR-Z

1) Does the 230/232 111+3 that predator z suggests in post #45 from the link above use the same lobe profiles as chris1313's cam (XFI/XER)

Yes same lobes but Chris's is a 230/230 111LSA (degreed at +2 advance)

2) What heads (budget in mind) would be the best for the 230/232 111+3?

TEA 243 stage 2 (yes those are nicely priced in my book), unmilled with stock gasket.

3) Currently I have comp 1.75 rockers. Would it be adviseable to run these with this cam? Or would I be better off going back to 1.7's?

Yes you can run the Comp magnums with it.

Titanws6

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I am pretty sure Pred will chime in here soon...
1.) yes
2.) 243s probably, that is what I will be using for a similar spec'd cam
3.) Not sure

transaman98

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well I think I have found the combo I am looking for. Now I just need to track down some 243 castings because TEA is out.

transaman98

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I am on TSP's website and it is asking me what the ICL would be for the cam? Also assuming I was to use the TEA Stage 2 LS6's unmilled with a stock gasked what length pushrod would I need? The lift on the cam is .612/.595 correct?

PREDATOR-Z

Correct on the lifts
ICL is 108

For pushrods you should measure. But usualy with LS1/LS6 lifters it will be close to 7.425s

PREDATOR-Z

But before you pull the trigger on this cam, what are your goals and what are you trying to achieve?

transaman98

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I dont really have a horsepower goal. I could really care less what they dyno says. I just want a car that has decent street manners and is capable of clicking off 11.50's. The car is primarily a street car so I would like something that is going to have power throughout the band rather than up top like the large cams. I could be way off but after seeing chris1313's car run the times that it did cam only, I don't see much of a problem meeting my goals especially with those TEA heads aswell. I also forgot to mention that the car also has QA1 12ways up front and out back, aswell as lca's, relocation brackets, and sfc's. I am open to suggestions predator so let me know if you have a better idea. Only thing I am set on is running the TEA 2.0 LS6 heads. I have a line on a set for a decent price to send to have TEA do the headwork. I just need to tie up the loose ends. I always hear that your heads are the one place not so skimp on so I figured these would be a decent compromise between performance and my budget.

transaman98

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BTW I put MAYBE 3000 miles on it a year.

PREDATOR-Z

Ok I understand, Chris's setup was a bit different though. Your setup is heavier and your stall is a bit too low to cut the 60' he was running (1.36), which really is the ticket to run fast times. (along with good air )
IMO, I would look into another stall, like a SS4000 Yank, Those TEA heads and 227/231, 617/.621 110+1 LSA
That should make enough midrange to high rpm trq to achieve your goals.

transaman98

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well the truth hurts...makes me wish that I would have gotten a bigger stall from the get go. Damn thing only has like 750-1000 miles on it. What lobe profiles is that cam using? Pushrod length? And my comp 1.75's will still be good to go with this stick?

PREDATOR-Z

You know since it is a VIG you can get it restalled (I think for free, just pay shipping).
Pushrods you'll have to measure and yes you can run the Comp rockers.

transaman98

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so u just reccomend going with a 4000 vig then? I know they offer one free stall change but I got the hookup from a friend that works at a performance shop. So I don't have a receipt. Think they will still charge me? And I know this sounds like something a newb would ask but is this cam going to have a pretty good chop to it? Assuming I remember how to calculate overlap that cam would have 11* correct?

PREDATOR-Z

Although the VIG 4000 is a bit less efficient than SS4000 Yank, that would be your cheapest solution. VIG can determine how old your verter is from the unit. You just send it to them and they will tell you. If within 2 years from manufacture, they will do it free. I use vig and restalled mine from 3200 > 3800 the same way.

9* overlap, about perfect for the cubes. Nice lope.

transaman98

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I send an email to vig and asked about doing a restall to see if they would cover. If they aren't going to cover it does anyone know what a restall cost?

transaman98

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Predator does this cam that you spec'd out (227/231, 617/.621 110+1 LSA)for this setup seem like a aggressive cam on paper in regards to tune? What lobes was this cam setup on aswell? I am just trying to get all the info I need to get this ordered. So whatever I need to have this cam ground please fill me in.

firefighter813x

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This is my advice. I had my Vig 3600 restalled to a 3200 when my transmission blew. I also added N20 and wanted a tighter converter. They had it cleaned out and shipped back to the shop very quickly. Try a looser converter with some good tires and see how that works before buying heads.

transaman98

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problem with that is that is that my heads right now have a crack in the exhaust runner. the D-bag that ported them just hogged them out and the material got wayyyyy too thin. I was recommended to him by a "reputable shop". After the engine was heat cycled a few times the car started to have problems. Put a scope in the exh. runner on the head and low and behold a crack. So the heads are top priority.