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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 10:36 PM
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These have to be some of the most controversial cams around, now im looking to put one of these in once i make up my mind but i have some problems and need alittle help choosing for this setup... im planning on maby a small spray in the future possibly 75 - 100 but have heard that the 230 is a reverse split and doesnt handle n20 good?? Im also looking for something to get me around 395 to 400hp but most importantly run some where in the mid 11s, ive heard that the 230 sucks for low rpm unless you change out the gears, but i dont want to change the gears out just yet and even if i did it would only be to 3.73s. This car is a street car and i want somthing that lopes good at idle but also has great performance. i will be getting new lifters and the double spring kit, ti retainers, hardended rods and a tune, let me know if you guys have a similar set up/numbers what everybody thinks.... all previous mods are in sig, thanks for the help!!!
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Hope this helps. From the cam only thread...
Originally Posted by Samba242
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CompCams 224/224 .563/.563 112 cam, CC 918 springs, CC pushrods
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Driveability is good, no stalling, nice noticable lope.

386 HP/ 369 torque

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Just got a TR 230/224 installed and it made 403HP and 387TQ in an '01 Z06. Dynatech LT's and X-pipe, Borla Stinger, and Donaldson Blackwing.

Idles smooth at 900, up to 1000 with the A/C on. No drivability isses so far. Ever so slight shake to the car from time to time, but not a whole lot more than stock. With the new clutch I haven't been able to hit WOT yet, but I have another 300 miles then hang on!

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close to ryan, 399.5/386 with ls6 intake, macs, cut out, orp, throttle body, lid, ram clutch, and tuning, oh and 224/224 .579/.581 112lsa
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 11:24 PM
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where is this cam only thread, i couldnt find one anywhere, now i feel stupid for posting this here!!! sry guys.
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For what you are looking at I would check out the 224/228. "IF" you can afford it, I would go with the AFR 205 & 224/228 cam package. Tony Mamo has put up huge nubers with that combo and it will drive like a dream. If I'm not mistaken, that was laying down around 450ish at the tires.
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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 07:49 AM
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where is this cam only thread, i couldnt find one anywhere, now i feel stupid for posting this here!!! sry guys.
third sticky in the dyno results and comparison section
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TR230.

I had the tr224-112, awesome cam, the tr230-111 is just the next step up. And will be awesome on the juice, even though it is a reverse split, people have had very good results spraying with this cam.
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TR230.

I had the tr224-112, awesome cam, the tr230-111 is just the next step up. And will be awesome on the juice, even though it is a reverse split, people have had very good results spraying with this cam.
true it is a step up but how is the bottom end torque compared to the 224, plus with the 111 LSA ive heard that it may surge and bump? i dont care what the dyno says i just wanna be faster down the track and i know the 230 looks better on the graph but without gears it might not run quicker, i might just break down and just get some 3.73s...
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Originally Posted by blown90camaro
true it is a step up but how is the bottom end torque compared to the 224, plus with the 111 LSA ive heard that it may surge and bump? i dont care what the dyno says i just wanna be faster down the track and i know the 230 looks better on the graph but without gears it might not run quicker, i might just break down and just get some 3.73s...
The tr230 will give up nothing to the tr224, and will make more power. With only 5* of overlap, the tuner will have no problem getting it perfect. The 111lsa will chop more than the tr224-112, mainly because it has the overlap, the tr230 has 5* where the tr224 has zero. It makes power EVERYWHERE, I personally think it sounds absolutly badass! And will have stock like driviblity.
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 04:38 AM
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I have a TSP228R 114LSA if you interested, Brand New never opened.... Buddy of mine has the same cam on his 04 GTO with 243 heads and made 407/392.... Let me know if your interested, This is a very strong cam.

Specs: 228/228 .588 .588 114 lsa

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i've owned both and all i can say is cam only the 224 made 401hp, with heads it made 443hp, now i have a forged bottom end and have the 230 cam and it made 455hp all to the wheels. Both are good, the 224 has more bottom end than the 230 and the 230 made 12 rwhp more than the 224. without gears the 224 wont run well without gears. I ran 11.8 on a 1.72 60' all day with the 224 cam only with 4:10 gears. without the gears i ran 12.30's. so get some gears and get either one and you will be happy, i promise you.
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I definately like our 228R over a 224 duration camshaft. The 228 duration point seems to be a great sweet spot for the LS engines. You can get great driveability, build power early & make awesome power. If you get some time checkout my thread about our new TSP 228 camshaft next to a few other cams we've tested next to each other. I think you'll find the power of the new 228 TSP camshaft is very good & makes great bottom end next to the 224s!!!
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thanks for all of the feedback i think im going to go with the 230 for alittle more power and of course i love the choppy sounding part as well, hell who doesnt! ill probly get some 3.73s and pop those in one weekend as well!
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Yeah with my cam I ran 12.1 with stock gears n all. I would swap them out if u have the money bc my buddy with a 220/222 ran 12.0 with a set of 3.73s
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i would run a 228 but that is just me
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Originally Posted by blown90camaro
thanks for all of the feedback i think im going to go with the 230 for alittle more power and of course i love the choppy sounding part as well, hell who doesnt! ill probly get some 3.73s and pop those in one weekend as well!
You won't be dissappointed with the 230. It is one of my all time favorites and in street trim usually kills the others in midrange torque as well as top end power. It'll drive ok with the 3.42's but as far as track performance goes, it would be no different if you went with the 224 or the 230. All of the cams in this range prefer deeper gears.

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Originally Posted by Jason 98 TA
I definately like our 228R over a 224 duration camshaft. The 228 duration point seems to be a great sweet spot for the LS engines. You can get great driveability, build power early & make awesome power. If you get some time checkout my thread about our new TSP 228 camshaft next to a few other cams we've tested next to each other. I think you'll find the power of the new 228 TSP camshaft is very good & makes great bottom end next to the 224s!!!
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Originally Posted by Hell'sChariot
The tr230 will give up nothing to the tr224, and will make more power. With only 5* of overlap, the tuner will have no problem getting it perfect. The 111lsa will chop more than the tr224-112, mainly because it has the overlap, the tr230 has 5* where the tr224 has zero. It makes power EVERYWHERE, I personally think it sounds absolutly badass! And will have stock like driviblity.
Man, that is exactly what I need to hear..

I'm currently running the TR224 on a 112LSA and I love the power it makes (of course, I'd be happy with more) but I really wish it sounded a little more lopey.. I know the lope doesn't make me "go faster" but it sure sounds sweeter at a red light...

Will the 230 make a NOTICEABLE difference over the 224?
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yes its much lopyier
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But it doesn't give up anything to the 224? I've got 3.42's now and don't want to change them out...
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