Alright so my buddy has a bone stock 99 formula and is dead set on having 400rwhp with stock or very near stock driveability.

He will be running a vigilante 3200 stall, dynamaxx longtubes with their catted Y-pipe, LS6 manifold, Ported TB, and whatever heads and cam will give him the power he is looking for. I have a 224/230 .581/.592 114LSA that I am getting ready to pull out of my car and suggested him picking that up for cheap off me and tossing a set of AFR 205's and he would have his goals met with excellent streetability for a daily driver. I think he seems to think it is too big. He seems to think the GM hotcam will give him his results but I dont see why he wouldn't go a little bigger. Any input would be appreciated!

 

i got a vig 3200, 3.73, all bolt ons, stock heads, and LS6 intake and run the X1 230/227 and made 395rwhp. drivability is very much close to stock.

 

what do you guys think the hot cam would make with this setup on afr 205 heads?

 

I'd think a 228r and some prc 5.3's would be a good combo and should match his stall nicely

 

he is dead set on having completely stock driveability with a h/c/i setup and 400rwhp. Has anyone thought about the TR cheater cam and AFR's with the other mods listed?

 

wow usually threads like this are really popular with feedback. I am just looking to help find him a little insight.

 

My car drives like stock and makes over 400rwhp, anything 228 in duration or smaller (even in the 232 range) and 112 LSA or higher/wider with a proper tune will drive like stock.

 

Checkout the new TSP 228 camshaft, it makes a little bit more power than the previous 228R camshaft. Combine that with something like the PRC Stage 2.5 LS6 heads, or the PRC 215 heads & you'll have a awesome combo! Here's the dyno sheet comparing the camshafts

 

Jason, is that on stock heads ^ ?

 

If he wants something with Stock driveability, I would go with the cheater head/cam setup. He would maintain stock driveability and achieve his horsepower goals. The setup consists of the AFR 205 heads and our CheaTR or LS2 CheaTR camshaft.

 

I saw that package awhile back and told him to check into it. His dad owns a circle track performance shop so he can get the heads for pretty cheap so I suggested doing the afr 205's with the cheaTR cam. I know the results that I see on the website are through stock exhaust and manifolds, but does anyone have results with this setup using longtubes and catback? Also were the results through an auto or a manual? How would the cheaTR cam work with my old Vig 3200 that he will be using?

 

im 99.9% sure its on a m6. m6 makes more hp and thats what shops want you to see to get you to buy it. tell him hp numbers are not ****. they are only a piece of paper with some numbers that look cool.

im not sure the numbers on a full exhaust car but im pretty sure that set up had a fast intake too. i have a 226 with stock heads and put down 340rwhp and im running 12.1 with a 1.8 60ft. my cam drives like stock for the most part too

 

Here is a graph of a car we did with heads and a CheaTR camshaft. It was a 6 speed car and had a set of the Thunder Racing 1 3/4" Headers and ORY Pipe.