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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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Alright so my buddy has a bone stock 99 formula and is dead set on having 400rwhp with stock or very near stock driveability.

He will be running a vigilante 3200 stall, dynamaxx longtubes with their catted Y-pipe, LS6 manifold, Ported TB, and whatever heads and cam will give him the power he is looking for. I have a 224/230 .581/.592 114LSA that I am getting ready to pull out of my car and suggested him picking that up for cheap off me and tossing a set of AFR 205's and he would have his goals met with excellent streetability for a daily driver. I think he seems to think it is too big. He seems to think the GM hotcam will give him his results but I dont see why he wouldn't go a little bigger. Any input would be appreciated!
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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i got a vig 3200, 3.73, all bolt ons, stock heads, and LS6 intake and run the X1 230/227 and made 395rwhp. drivability is very much close to stock.
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 02:32 PM
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what do you guys think the hot cam would make with this setup on afr 205 heads?
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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I'd think a 228r and some prc 5.3's would be a good combo and should match his stall nicely
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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he is dead set on having completely stock driveability with a h/c/i setup and 400rwhp. Has anyone thought about the TR cheater cam and AFR's with the other mods listed?
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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 07:23 PM
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wow usually threads like this are really popular with feedback. I am just looking to help find him a little insight.
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Old Aug 19, 2009 | 08:32 AM
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My car drives like stock and makes over 400rwhp, anything 228 in duration or smaller (even in the 232 range) and 112 LSA or higher/wider with a proper tune will drive like stock.
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Old Aug 19, 2009 | 08:36 AM
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Checkout the new TSP 228 camshaft, it makes a little bit more power than the previous 228R camshaft. Combine that with something like the PRC Stage 2.5 LS6 heads, or the PRC 215 heads & you'll have a awesome combo! Here's the dyno sheet comparing the camshafts

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Jason, is that on stock heads ^ ?
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If he wants something with Stock driveability, I would go with the cheater head/cam setup. He would maintain stock driveability and achieve his horsepower goals. The setup consists of the AFR 205 heads and our CheaTR or LS2 CheaTR camshaft.
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I saw that package awhile back and told him to check into it. His dad owns a circle track performance shop so he can get the heads for pretty cheap so I suggested doing the afr 205's with the cheaTR cam. I know the results that I see on the website are through stock exhaust and manifolds, but does anyone have results with this setup using longtubes and catback? Also were the results through an auto or a manual? How would the cheaTR cam work with my old Vig 3200 that he will be using?
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I saw that package awhile back and told him to check into it. His dad owns a circle track performance shop so he can get the heads for pretty cheap so I suggested doing the afr 205's with the cheaTR cam. I know the results that I see on the website are through stock exhaust and manifolds, but does anyone have results with this setup using longtubes and catback? Also were the results through an auto or a manual? How would the cheaTR cam work with my old Vig 3200 that he will be using?
im 99.9% sure its on a m6. m6 makes more hp and thats what shops want you to see to get you to buy it. tell him hp numbers are not ****. they are only a piece of paper with some numbers that look cool.

im not sure the numbers on a full exhaust car but im pretty sure that set up had a fast intake too. i have a 226 with stock heads and put down 340rwhp and im running 12.1 with a 1.8 60ft. my cam drives like stock for the most part too
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Originally Posted by transaman98
I saw that package awhile back and told him to check into it. His dad owns a circle track performance shop so he can get the heads for pretty cheap so I suggested doing the afr 205's with the cheaTR cam. I know the results that I see on the website are through stock exhaust and manifolds, but does anyone have results with this setup using longtubes and catback? Also were the results through an auto or a manual? How would the cheaTR cam work with my old Vig 3200 that he will be using?

Here is a graph of a car we did with heads and a CheaTR camshaft. It was a 6 speed car and had a set of the Thunder Racing 1 3/4" Headers and ORY Pipe.


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