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Old 09-07-2009, 09:27 PM
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okay so i finished my heads cam swap to try and start the car only to find the car cranks fine but will not start. After taking a closer look i realized when you turn the key one click before starting it , all the usual lights on the cluster including the mileage clock the door sensor lets face it the lights that light up like a christmas tree and go away when you start the car just dont come on at all. This leads me to believe that maybe the ECU isnt getting power? thats just a guess but thats also why the car isnt starting. I plugged in a scanner and it says no response from ignition. Any ideas im sure this is something foolish i overlooked when putting the car together. any ideas im dying to get her running
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Are the ground straps behind the drivers head attached? Coil connections?
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how many grounds are there i connected to back to the head its a 99 ls1 , and the coil packs are plugged in
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I just had the one ground on the back of the driver's side head. Make sure the coils are all plugged in along with the large connection that powers the 4 coils on each side. Also make sure fuel line is reconnected, MAF, IAT, OPSU, knock sensors, and ECT are all plugged in too. Oh and your O2 sensors as well in case you pulled the headers out. Are the battery connections pretty tight?
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this is weird everything looks plugged in ive got tobe missing something....so frustrating
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there is 2 of em on the drivers side make sure there tight also just for ***** try your battery connections they might be just lose enough not to crank
1 more thing there is 2 big plug ins on each coil pack in the center make sure there seated all the way if it still wont start pull a plug and see if your getting spark if you get spark its not your coils
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i really dont think its a coil issue its got something to do with the computer cuz like i said the other symptom is im not getting any status lights on dash or even mileage clock on dash, this makes me think the computer isnt on
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bump anyone got any ideas the car is getting power obviously cuz the radio and crap works but as i said the cluster is essentially dead when i turn key to start car the needles kinda spaz alittle but the only lights that come on on the cluster are the headlight indicator nothing else which you all know is not normal
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Better check your fuses.
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pcm and ignit fuses all good
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So... is it not getting fuel or spark!?!?!
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im trying to explain to u guys the problem is before all of that its not starting because its not getting a singal from pcm, i turn the key it cranks cuz physically its ok it wont start becasue the computer isnt sending any ignition through , as i said the scanner doesnt even think they key is in ignition
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i think i found the problem, there was a cylindrical sensor with a white 1 pin connector that goes into the block itself it was broken off its base , the only problem is i dont knwo what it is called to replace it
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Originally Posted by mvrotc
i think i found the problem, there was a cylindrical sensor with a white 1 pin connector that goes into the block itself it was broken off its base , the only problem is i dont knwo what it is called to replace it
Are you talking about the coolant temp sensor on the driver side?
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That broke sensor is probably the oil sending unit.

On the grounds; at the rear of the drivers side cylinder head there are 3 ground wires. As equipped stock; 2 are grounded with 1 bolt, and a single eyelet is grounded with another bolt. These are both short 15mm headed bolts. As long as all 3 wires are grounded to the block they shouldn't cause issues.
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cam sensor sets at the back top of motor by the oil pressure sending unit. crank sensor is above starter on the passenger side.
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Originally Posted by butler
cam sensor sets at the back top of motor by the oil pressure sending unit. crank sensor is above starter on the passenger side.
Same thing I was going to post.
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ok its the oil pressure sender/switch thing can someone look on autozone and advanced auto parts and tell me what part it is on there so ican pick it up tomorrow theres 2 diff ones im confused
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Originally Posted by mvrotc
ok its the oil pressure sender/switch thing can someone look on autozone and advanced auto parts and tell me what part it is on there so ican pick it up tomorrow theres 2 diff ones im confused
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