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Old 12-03-2003 | 09:24 AM
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Took it to a dealer, and they checked the car over. They decided to start my motor with no oil in it to check for a knock and to see if it was locked up or not...GRRR...what could have been damaged? I am thinking maybe nothing, but at the same time I am freaking out about scars in the sleves or bearing damage.
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Old 12-03-2003 | 09:38 AM
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I cant believe a dealer started your car with no oil. Geez. If it ran for 5 seconds or less I wouldnt worry about it. If they ran it for longer than that you should be concerned. You know how important oil is. You are running Amsoil.
Old 12-03-2003 | 09:40 AM
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How long did they let it run? If it was only for a few seconds then probably no further damage was done then was caused by the destruction of the oil pan. When you change oil,unless you fill the filter with oil you have a couple of seconds before pressure builds and cars are started like that all the time.
Old 12-03-2003 | 09:56 AM
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no more than 2 seconds, it was just a quick check of the motor.
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Old 12-03-2003 | 11:01 AM
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Two seconds does not sound too bad to me... It sounds like they were making sure that there was no damage to the rotating assembly.
Old 12-03-2003 | 11:36 AM
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Why on earth would they have to check ANYTHING internal without oil in the block? I would assume that anything awry with the engine would have quickly been noticed...oil or not. WTF? Some things you just can't hide and a bottom end issue would be one of them, you'd think. Hmmmm.
Old 12-03-2003 | 11:39 AM
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I dunno they are crazy if you ask me.
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Old 12-03-2003 | 11:42 AM
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I see. This is only something they would be doing only is cases where they feared the worst then. In that case, it makes sense. Sounds unnatural, but reasonable!
Old 12-03-2003 | 04:20 PM
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It was definitely dumb for them to do but for only 2 seconds there would be virtually no damage done.

I would still do an oil analysis at the end of your next oil change interval just in case though. Then you'll have ammunition against them if need be.
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Hold on.

The driver sheared off the OIL PAN.

You would put it all back together before making sure that the motor didn't throw a rod??????

2 seconds is nothing, there is still oil coating everything in the engine.

If the oil pan was sheared off the bottom of the block might be ruined think about it.
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True, the oil pan is a structural part of the engine.

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Damn, people are lazy, would've taken what, 2 minutes with a 24mm socket and a breaker bar? Probably no damage was done due to this, what would they have done if there was damage, and the crank, rods, and pistons decided to leave the block? Not very smart, IMO. Hopefully they will look at more than this to determine if there is motor damage. (Like PSJ alluded to, broken block, and surely there is damage to bolt holes EVERYWHERE) Hopefully they'll just total it, this car will probably always be plagued with small, nagging problems, IMO. If they fix it, get rid of it ASAP.




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