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Old 11-01-2009, 01:06 PM
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what would cause oil to come out of exhaust? compression good no oil fouled plugs, good pcv valve,
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valve stem seals
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Even with a good PCV valve, you could still be vacuuming oil into the intake. I would take off the induction and look in the TB and see if there is any oil sitting in the bottom of the intake. Like mention above, valve seals are something else to look at. If they are worn, oil can run down the valves and into the combustion chambers. You could also check the intake rocker arm bolts. If the rockers have been off the car and you didn't use any kind of sealant on the bolts, oil can run into the intake runner there. Typically any small amount of oil is burned during combustion so if you can actually see it in the exhaust pipes, it should be pretty easy to diagnose I would think. Let us know if we can help!

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Originally Posted by Jon@Texas-Speed
Even with a good PCV valve, you could still be vacuuming oil into the intake. I would take off the induction and look in the TB and see if there is any oil sitting in the bottom of the intake. Like mention above, valve seals are something else to look at. If they are worn, oil can run down the valves and into the combustion chambers. You could also check the intake rocker arm bolts. If the rockers have been off the car and you didn't use any kind of sealant on the bolts, oil can run into the intake runner there. Typically any small amount of oil is burned during combustion so if you can actually see it in the exhaust pipes, it should be pretty easy to diagnose I would think. Let us know if we can help!

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do you mean using locktight on the rocker bolts or you meanto use RTV sealent?
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You use sealant on the rocker bolts to seal the threads and keep oil from getting by.
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Originally Posted by Matt@Texas-Speed
You use sealant on the rocker bolts to seal the threads and keep oil from getting by.

The intake rocker bolts lead to the intake ports? Didn't know that.

I better go back and seal them suckers up.
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Originally Posted by Matt@Texas-Speed
You use sealant on the rocker bolts to seal the threads and keep oil from getting by.
wow i had no idea. so i use the locktight on the exhaust rockers and use rtv sealent on the intake ones? do we use the red, black or blue rtv?
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GM only puts a little goop on the washer part of the bolt, I assume to hold it in place a bit. Only once ported do the heads need the sealant on the bolts. Our technician uses black RTV on the rocker arm bolts (permatex I believe), due to it being somewhere between teflon and loctite in hardness.
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I have had the rockers off when I installed the trex, put lil dab of red loctite on the threads when torqued down rockers, but am fixing to change pushrods, so i will defineitely put some rtv on them... I looked at the valve stems to see if it had any of them kicked up but all looked fine, from what i could see..only other thig that may be connected to the oil issue is low vacuum, it was pulling about 12-14, didn know if that was common with trex or what should it pull? Is did notice a lil oil behind the throttle body, what could i do to to eliminate that?
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Originally Posted by jwilsonf
I have had the rockers off when I installed the trex, put lil dab of red loctite on the threads when torqued down rockers, but am fixing to change pushrods, so i will defineitely put some rtv on them... I looked at the valve stems to see if it had any of them kicked up but all looked fine, from what i could see..only other thig that may be connected to the oil issue is low vacuum, it was pulling about 12-14, didn know if that was common with trex or what should it pull? Is did notice a lil oil behind the throttle body, what could i do to to eliminate that?
get a pcv catch can
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Originally Posted by Matt@Texas-Speed
GM only puts a little goop on the washer part of the bolt, I assume to hold it in place a bit. Only once ported do the heads need the sealant on the bolts. Our technician uses black RTV on the rocker arm bolts (permatex I believe), due to it being somewhere between teflon and loctite in hardness.
thank you Matt, i will make sure to use sealent when im putting mine back together.
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I've always used the Black Permatex rtv to seal up the bolts as well. It has never givin me any issues. It can be a pain to clean out if you have to remove the bolts though. I use screw in studs, so it's never been an issue.
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Originally Posted by Jon@Texas-Speed
Even with a good PCV valve, you could still be vacuuming oil into the intake. I would take off the induction and look in the TB and see if there is any oil sitting in the bottom of the intake. Like mention above, valve seals are something else to look at. If they are worn, oil can run down the valves and into the combustion chambers. You could also check the intake rocker arm bolts. If the rockers have been off the car and you didn't use any kind of sealant on the bolts, oil can run into the intake runner there. Typically any small amount of oil is burned during combustion so if you can actually see it in the exhaust pipes, it should be pretty easy to diagnose I would think. Let us know if we can help!

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When I pulled mine from factory, most of the rocker bolts were drenched. I had oil in the intake ports and tb really bad. What is a good amount to use when I put it back together?
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Originally Posted by BlownChevySS
Not trying to threadjack here, but when I pulled off my rockers, I had a few bolts drenched in oil as well as filthy ports on the heads and intake. When you say use a sealant, do you mean like permatex or loctite?
Permatex RTV silicone will work perfectly.
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question?? can they leak on stock heads or is it only on the ported? i havent had mine apart and didn know if the bolts would come down through stock of just ported..
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^^^ yea i wasent sure bout that one either
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Found oil on mine when I pulled them from a completely stock block, same as BlownChevy apparently.. Interested in this as well.
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They're blind holes on stock heads. So oil shouldn't get past them. Most, if not all ported heads cut into the rocker bolt hole. So if not sealed, oil will get past the bolt.

I can see oil on the thread of a stock headed rocker bolt. But it can't leak into the intake runner unless the head is cracked.
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Makes complete sense now.

Thanks WhiteRhino.
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ok so i wouldent need the sealer on my stock untouched heads then?



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