MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine
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Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine I would hope that after all is said and done, someone will remember to get some GOOD video of this monster in action! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Give us peons something to drool over! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by binksz06:
<strong>Good God That's Beautiful!!!!!Some stupid questions; 1) Who fabricated/designed the intake ?-do the runners give it a ram effect? 2)What are the specs on the solid roller? 3)Are the heads 38cc or 30cc or less? <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">1. I don't know.
2. I can't say.
3. 38cc
<strong>Good God That's Beautiful!!!!!Some stupid questions; 1) Who fabricated/designed the intake ?-do the runners give it a ram effect? 2)What are the specs on the solid roller? 3)Are the heads 38cc or 30cc or less? <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">1. I don't know.
2. I can't say.
3. 38cc
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Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by FASST:
<strong>So once you build a motor like that, what next? Looks sweet though.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That was the idea. To build the end all badass NA LS1 style engine....trying to leave nothing more that we could have done. So, maybe we'll lower the C/R (ALOT!) and slap a set of TTs or a direct port setup on it one day?
<strong>So once you build a motor like that, what next? Looks sweet though.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That was the idea. To build the end all badass NA LS1 style engine....trying to leave nothing more that we could have done. So, maybe we'll lower the C/R (ALOT!) and slap a set of TTs or a direct port setup on it one day?
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Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine This 434ci has the same bore/stroke as my 434ci, which is 4.155" bore and 4.00" stroke. The block is also a C5R block.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So once you build a motor like that, what next?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">As for LS1/LS6 engines, it doesn't get more extreme than this setup. Whats next? A tube chassis and 'glass body <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
-Tony
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So once you build a motor like that, what next?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">As for LS1/LS6 engines, it doesn't get more extreme than this setup. Whats next? A tube chassis and 'glass body <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
-Tony
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Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine that is a sweet looking motor, cant wait to see some numbers from it. Is anyone gonna video and host the dyno of that car? i would love to hear it.
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Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine I'm impressed to say the least! Are you still running a 12 bolt or did you get a 9 inch for those 5.13's. Jeez I hope you're going to be using a huge tire (33?) for those!
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Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine "Are you still running a 12 bolt or did you get a 9 inch for those 5.13's. Jeez I hope you're going to be using a huge tire (33?) for those!"
I'll be staying with the 12-bolt. We're upgrading to 33 spline axles (was 30 spline) and a spool (was a HD Eaton posi.)
The plan is to run 29.5-30" x 10.5" slicks. 5.13s sound like alot of gear until you look at the 1.76 1st gear I'll be running in the powerglide.
<small>[ October 28, 2002, 02:22 PM: Message edited by: Colonel ]</small>
I'll be staying with the 12-bolt. We're upgrading to 33 spline axles (was 30 spline) and a spool (was a HD Eaton posi.)
The plan is to run 29.5-30" x 10.5" slicks. 5.13s sound like alot of gear until you look at the 1.76 1st gear I'll be running in the powerglide.
<small>[ October 28, 2002, 02:22 PM: Message edited by: Colonel ]</small>
Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine Where did you get thoes valve covers from, and are the coil packs gona be mounted to them. Luck? You wont need any stinking luck as long as that trany holds up. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
O yea and if the coil packs arent gona be on the valve covers, where are they gona be ?? Pics would be nice <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />
<small>[ October 28, 2002, 02:24 PM: Message edited by: stang killer ]</small>
O yea and if the coil packs arent gona be on the valve covers, where are they gona be ?? Pics would be nice <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />
<small>[ October 28, 2002, 02:24 PM: Message edited by: stang killer ]</small>
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Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine I'm not sure where MTI got the valve covers. Katech I suppose?
Look at the pics Tony provided. You can see the coil packs in front of the valve covers. See the blue plug wires? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
The tranny is a HUGE concern. I honestly don't give it much chance of making it through the weekend but it'll be fun regardless. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> I'm really considering this weekend as a Test-N-Tune session...I'm not getting my hopes up of actually winning. I just hope to get some good shakedown passes in before the tranny goes KABOOM!!! <img border="0" alt="[guns]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[kaboom]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bomb.gif" />
Look at the pics Tony provided. You can see the coil packs in front of the valve covers. See the blue plug wires? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
The tranny is a HUGE concern. I honestly don't give it much chance of making it through the weekend but it'll be fun regardless. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> I'm really considering this weekend as a Test-N-Tune session...I'm not getting my hopes up of actually winning. I just hope to get some good shakedown passes in before the tranny goes KABOOM!!! <img border="0" alt="[guns]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[kaboom]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bomb.gif" />
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Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine The valvecovers are GM parts, made for the C5R racing engines.
The coil packs are mounted to custom brackets on the front of each head. See those blue sparkplug wires coming off the front of each head? See the 4 coil packs on each side?
-Tony
The coil packs are mounted to custom brackets on the front of each head. See those blue sparkplug wires coming off the front of each head? See the 4 coil packs on each side?
-Tony
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Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine Beatcha to it! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
BTW, Tony, I'm leaving in the morning. Needed today to square away a few things. I'll give you a ring when I'm on my way. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
BTW, Tony, I'm leaving in the morning. Needed today to square away a few things. I'll give you a ring when I'm on my way. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I really doubt its 19:1 compression. Most motors wont make more power beyond 16:1 compression on race gas.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">theres always rocket fuel <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Colonel:
<strong>"Are you still running a 12 bolt or did you get a 9 inch for those 5.13's. Jeez I hope you're going to be using a huge tire (33?) for those!"
I'll be staying with the 12-bolt. We're upgrading to 33 spline axles (was 30 spline) and a spool (was a HD Eaton posi.)
The plan is to run 29.5-30" x 10.5" slicks. 5.13s sound like alot of gear until you look at the 1.76 1st gear I'll be running in the powerglide.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's not the first gear I'd be worried about, it's the 1.00 second. With 30" tires, 5.13's, and a say 7800 redline you'll be hitting 136 mph (which is what you trapped with your old setup). Of course your redline could be like 8500 rpm <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> in which case you'd be good to 148 mph <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<strong>"Are you still running a 12 bolt or did you get a 9 inch for those 5.13's. Jeez I hope you're going to be using a huge tire (33?) for those!"
I'll be staying with the 12-bolt. We're upgrading to 33 spline axles (was 30 spline) and a spool (was a HD Eaton posi.)
The plan is to run 29.5-30" x 10.5" slicks. 5.13s sound like alot of gear until you look at the 1.76 1st gear I'll be running in the powerglide.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's not the first gear I'd be worried about, it's the 1.00 second. With 30" tires, 5.13's, and a say 7800 redline you'll be hitting 136 mph (which is what you trapped with your old setup). Of course your redline could be like 8500 rpm <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> in which case you'd be good to 148 mph <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine Good lord!!! That's KILLER! <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine That engine is a work of art....or is that Mike. <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine seeing as how he's launching on the brake at 6500 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> i would assume a 8500-9000rpm redline. especially since he's using DFI.
the next step (if it were me) would be to put the current converter BACK in the car, machine some DP nozzles in that trick intake and setup a rear firewall for an additional fuel cell for the TNT. OR perhaps a nice carb-style single plane and huge 1500+ cfm 4-hole TB. by then we're probably talking more bore, more stroke, and a bigger solid roller.
or he could do what i'd do...and take that bizzatch on the street.
Ryan
the next step (if it were me) would be to put the current converter BACK in the car, machine some DP nozzles in that trick intake and setup a rear firewall for an additional fuel cell for the TNT. OR perhaps a nice carb-style single plane and huge 1500+ cfm 4-hole TB. by then we're probably talking more bore, more stroke, and a bigger solid roller.
or he could do what i'd do...and take that bizzatch on the street.
Ryan