MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Colonel:
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I have no idea but I trust they know what they're doing. So, you think their position is bad for drivability? (Not that it's really much of a concern.) I expect the engine to drive and idle just fine for my purposes. The DFI system should really help with that.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have never converted an intake colonel and actually had mine converted for me.
BUT
every photo i've seen of a large tunnel ram type intake has never had the injector bungs being that big and high up in the port. Maybe it is the proper way because of the giant ports of the C5-R heads i dont know....
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I have no idea but I trust they know what they're doing. So, you think their position is bad for drivability? (Not that it's really much of a concern.) I expect the engine to drive and idle just fine for my purposes. The DFI system should really help with that.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have never converted an intake colonel and actually had mine converted for me.
BUT
every photo i've seen of a large tunnel ram type intake has never had the injector bungs being that big and high up in the port. Maybe it is the proper way because of the giant ports of the C5-R heads i dont know....
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The runners could always flare out and "cross over" in the large plenum - ala carbon fibre C5R intake, to give more bottom end punch.
What is the runner length on those - doesn't look like it could be more than 6".
I'm sure at a very high RPM they do their trick.
What is the runner length on those - doesn't look like it could be more than 6".
I'm sure at a very high RPM they do their trick.
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That looks just like the engine in my car except I went with the carbon fiber intake --- oh wait, I just realized that was a dream and I am now awake....how dissapointing. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />
That is possibly the sweetest motor I have ever seen. Now what would really put it over the top is a nice TT setup or even just a single turbo and a big one at that. Might have to drop the compression just a hair though <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Can I get a ride??
<small>[ October 28, 2002, 04:58 PM: Message edited by: ClassicCollector ]</small>
That is possibly the sweetest motor I have ever seen. Now what would really put it over the top is a nice TT setup or even just a single turbo and a big one at that. Might have to drop the compression just a hair though <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Can I get a ride??
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Man that thing is bad *** <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" />
My question is the fuel system. Is the supply line feeding the regulator? All of the diagrams I've seen lately show the regulator after the rails hooked directly to the return line? Are you feeding the rails from the rear or whats done to have it on the supply side?
I can't wait for that video <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
LAter <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
My question is the fuel system. Is the supply line feeding the regulator? All of the diagrams I've seen lately show the regulator after the rails hooked directly to the return line? Are you feeding the rails from the rear or whats done to have it on the supply side?
I can't wait for that video <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
LAter <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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I'm hoping this engine will turn about 9000 RPM and if that's the case then 30" tires will work fine.
Checkin' out my handy dandy gear calculator...150 MPH comes out to be 8618 RPM with 30" tires. Make 'em 30.5" to account for tire growth and we get 8477. Factor in another %5 for converter slippage and we get 8923 RPM.
Checkin' out my handy dandy gear calculator...150 MPH comes out to be 8618 RPM with 30" tires. Make 'em 30.5" to account for tire growth and we get 8477. Factor in another %5 for converter slippage and we get 8923 RPM.
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Congrats to the Colonel's newest set up and also to Mike @ MTI as he does some really nice work as it is diplayed here!!!!!
Good job guy's, I wish I had the Colonel's pocket book!!!!!! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
Good job guy's, I wish I had the Colonel's pocket book!!!!!! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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What size throttle body?
It looks like the 80mm one, but just a guess.
PiP
P.S. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
It looks like the 80mm one, but just a guess.
PiP
P.S. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Ryan:
<strong>OR perhaps a nice carb-style single plane and huge 1500+ cfm 4-hole TB. by then we're probably talking more bore, more stroke, and a bigger solid roller.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hmm, Like this lame LT1?
http://www.lt4-396.com/Intake/Engine1.jpg
I'm too much a cheap bastard to get one o them thar fancy sheetmetal thingies that goes on top of the moter. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
Stephen,
Engine looks great! I'm very interested to see what you can do with this once its sorted out.. My next project I have is to put together an 8 second NA Engine, but then again I'll be backdating to a Rodeck or Donovon Aluminum Gen1 SBC, with some *serious* heads. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
Good luck!
Kurtis Tamez
<strong>OR perhaps a nice carb-style single plane and huge 1500+ cfm 4-hole TB. by then we're probably talking more bore, more stroke, and a bigger solid roller.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hmm, Like this lame LT1?
http://www.lt4-396.com/Intake/Engine1.jpg
I'm too much a cheap bastard to get one o them thar fancy sheetmetal thingies that goes on top of the moter. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
Stephen,
Engine looks great! I'm very interested to see what you can do with this once its sorted out.. My next project I have is to put together an 8 second NA Engine, but then again I'll be backdating to a Rodeck or Donovon Aluminum Gen1 SBC, with some *serious* heads. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
Good luck!
Kurtis Tamez
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Glad to see it coming together. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
Won't leaded race gas kill wideband o2's?
Won't leaded race gas kill wideband o2's?
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Bob2of3:
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My question is the fuel system. Is the supply line feeding the regulator? All of the diagrams I've seen lately show the regulator after the rails hooked directly to the return line? Are you feeding the rails from the rear or whats done to have it on the supply side?
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The supply line is that gigantor line coming from the back, and feeding in under the intake plenum. There is a dividing block underneath that seends a line to each rail. Return line feeds off the front to the regulator.
As it has been said before... Mike, and the guys at MTI do some badass work.
The most impressive thing to me is the FAST system. Last I talked to Mike he was in the middle of handwiring the harness to make a standalone FAST system...a piggyback system. I've been known to tear into some **** on my car but that task was just.... <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> .
Looking forward to seeing you again Colonel!
<small>[ October 28, 2002, 09:15 PM: Message edited by: PaiN ]</small>
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My question is the fuel system. Is the supply line feeding the regulator? All of the diagrams I've seen lately show the regulator after the rails hooked directly to the return line? Are you feeding the rails from the rear or whats done to have it on the supply side?
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The supply line is that gigantor line coming from the back, and feeding in under the intake plenum. There is a dividing block underneath that seends a line to each rail. Return line feeds off the front to the regulator.
As it has been said before... Mike, and the guys at MTI do some badass work.
The most impressive thing to me is the FAST system. Last I talked to Mike he was in the middle of handwiring the harness to make a standalone FAST system...a piggyback system. I've been known to tear into some **** on my car but that task was just.... <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> .
Looking forward to seeing you again Colonel!
<small>[ October 28, 2002, 09:15 PM: Message edited by: PaiN ]</small>
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HOLY CRAP!!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Firebird]" title="" src="graemlins/formula.gif" /> Hopefully I can make it to see it live!!!
That car is going to make the earth shake, rattle,and you will be rollin.....FAST!!! AWSOME!!! <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" />
That car is going to make the earth shake, rattle,and you will be rollin.....FAST!!! AWSOME!!! <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" />
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Thanks guys for all the kind words!!
The MSD Crank Trigger will be installed tomorrow and it will come to life! <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />
The MSD Crank Trigger will be installed tomorrow and it will come to life! <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />