MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine
Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Bob2of3:
<strong>Man that thing is bad *** <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" />
My question is the fuel system. Is the supply line feeding the regulator? All of the diagrams I've seen lately show the regulator after the rails hooked directly to the return line? Are you feeding the rails from the rear or whats done to have it on the supply side?
I can't wait for that video <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
LAter <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Feeding the fuel rails from the rear (2)-10AN inlets. The lines you see in the front are the outlets going to the regulator. On the bottom of the regulator is the -8AN return line back to the tank(not sure if you can see it).
<strong>Man that thing is bad *** <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" />
My question is the fuel system. Is the supply line feeding the regulator? All of the diagrams I've seen lately show the regulator after the rails hooked directly to the return line? Are you feeding the rails from the rear or whats done to have it on the supply side?
I can't wait for that video <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
LAter <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Feeding the fuel rails from the rear (2)-10AN inlets. The lines you see in the front are the outlets going to the regulator. On the bottom of the regulator is the -8AN return line back to the tank(not sure if you can see it).
Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by KTamez:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Ryan:
<strong>OR perhaps a nice carb-style single plane and huge 1500+ cfm 4-hole TB. by then we're probably talking more bore, more stroke, and a bigger solid roller.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hmm, Like this lame LT1?
http://www.lt4-396.com/Intake/Engine1.jpg
I'm too much a cheap bastard to get one o them thar fancy sheetmetal thingies that goes on top of the moter. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
Stephen,
Engine looks great! I'm very interested to see what you can do with this once its sorted out.. My next project I have is to put together an 8 second NA Engine, but then again I'll be backdating to a Rodeck or Donovon Aluminum Gen1 SBC, with some *serious* heads. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
Good luck!
Kurtis Tamez</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Kurtis, that is one awesome looking motor <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
Are those the Madman solid engine mounts?
Is that a new motor or an old picture?
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Ryan:
<strong>OR perhaps a nice carb-style single plane and huge 1500+ cfm 4-hole TB. by then we're probably talking more bore, more stroke, and a bigger solid roller.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hmm, Like this lame LT1?
http://www.lt4-396.com/Intake/Engine1.jpg
I'm too much a cheap bastard to get one o them thar fancy sheetmetal thingies that goes on top of the moter. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
Stephen,
Engine looks great! I'm very interested to see what you can do with this once its sorted out.. My next project I have is to put together an 8 second NA Engine, but then again I'll be backdating to a Rodeck or Donovon Aluminum Gen1 SBC, with some *serious* heads. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
Good luck!
Kurtis Tamez</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Kurtis, that is one awesome looking motor <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
Are those the Madman solid engine mounts?
Is that a new motor or an old picture?
Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine Thanks Tony, Larry, Josh(Toxic), and everyone else. I am just as excited as you guys are about this set-up <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Let's not forget about the Brains behind this motor, Pecos and Robert.
They created this bullet, I'm just trying to fire it! <img border="0" alt="[guns]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" />
<img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" /> MTI <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />
Let's not forget about the Brains behind this motor, Pecos and Robert.
They created this bullet, I'm just trying to fire it! <img border="0" alt="[guns]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" />
<img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" /> MTI <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />
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Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine There are no numbers yet. As Tony said, "Hopefully it will be fired up today, after some final adjustments and settings are completed with the DFI engine control system" it hasn't run yet but we should see some numbers soon. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
C/R is about 16:1.
C/R is about 16:1.
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Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine "That injector sure is mounted up there. Why didnt they bring it down closer to the intake port, or is this a non issue since the motor is meant to run just at WOT?"
I have no idea but I trust they know what they're doing. So, you think their position is bad for drivability? (Not that it's really much of a concern.) I expect the engine to drive and idle just fine for my purposes. The DFI system should really help with that.
I have no idea but I trust they know what they're doing. So, you think their position is bad for drivability? (Not that it's really much of a concern.) I expect the engine to drive and idle just fine for my purposes. The DFI system should really help with that.
Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine Where did you put the filler for oil Mike? Also is the BBK going to be enough intake velocity for that monster eng?
very nice!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
very nice!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
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Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine Good God That's Beautiful!!!!!Some stupid questions; 1) Who fabricated/designed the intake ?-do the runners give it a ram effect? 2)What are the specs on the solid roller? 3)Are the heads 38cc or 30cc or less? <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 1 Bad Z:
<strong>
Kurtis, that is one awesome looking motor <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
Are those the Madman solid engine mounts?
Is that a new motor or an old picture?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanx!
It's a New engine, just been sitting on the stand for the last 6 months. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> I just set the Intae/Plate/TB on there for the pics. The heads are now at the machine shop to accomodate the Intake Bolt Conversion for the Dart Intake.
The car is darned near ready for the engine now. <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" /> It is a new Intake combo though as I had an LT4 Intake w/ a Fogger but I decided to run a particular class that outlaws foggers. The only way to flow as much Nitrous as I need and distribute it evenly enough for my tastes is a good ole Single Plane w/ a Plate and Dry Enriched FAST Management with Individual Cylinder Controls..... <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
As far as the Engine mounts well.... They are the same ones that Madman sells. Though I didn't get them from Brian. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Take care, and good luck with that Beast tomorrow!
<strong>
Kurtis, that is one awesome looking motor <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
Are those the Madman solid engine mounts?
Is that a new motor or an old picture?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanx!
It's a New engine, just been sitting on the stand for the last 6 months. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> I just set the Intae/Plate/TB on there for the pics. The heads are now at the machine shop to accomodate the Intake Bolt Conversion for the Dart Intake.
The car is darned near ready for the engine now. <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" /> It is a new Intake combo though as I had an LT4 Intake w/ a Fogger but I decided to run a particular class that outlaws foggers. The only way to flow as much Nitrous as I need and distribute it evenly enough for my tastes is a good ole Single Plane w/ a Plate and Dry Enriched FAST Management with Individual Cylinder Controls..... <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
As far as the Engine mounts well.... They are the same ones that Madman sells. Though I didn't get them from Brian. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Take care, and good luck with that Beast tomorrow!
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Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine Good lawd that is monstrous. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> Is that a 7 liter? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
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Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine Jeff, there is a custom oil fill spout with a threaded cap that was welded/machined into the valley tray under the intake.
This engine is a 434ci (7.1L) with a 4.155" bore and 4.00" stroke.
Price? If you have to ask, its too much for you <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
-Tony
This engine is a 434ci (7.1L) with a 4.155" bore and 4.00" stroke.
Price? If you have to ask, its too much for you <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
-Tony
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Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine I'm getting my cable modem setup on Friday. Now I'll be able to download all of the tasty vids that will be on next week <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
To the guy who asked how much? My guesss is, that if you have to ask, don't bother. You can't afford it.
Best of luck Colonel, hopefully you'll get alot of shakedown passes out of it this weekend.
To the guy who asked how much? My guesss is, that if you have to ask, don't bother. You can't afford it.
Best of luck Colonel, hopefully you'll get alot of shakedown passes out of it this weekend.
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Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine All I want to know is how the hell I get in Colonels Will!! Not to be the one to bring down the mood but does the US Treasurey have any cash left in it?? I'd hate to write the check for that Motor....GAAWWDDD....
<img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> COLONEL You got a monster!! Good luck!!
<img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> COLONEL You got a monster!! Good luck!!
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Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine I don't think that 9.5x C5R record will be standing for very long <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine Wow, that's a beautiful setup. I wish I could be at the event just to hear that thing screaming at 8500+ rpm <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Best of luck!
Best of luck!
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Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine The velocity stack individual throttle bodies found on a few Katech C5Rs will not fit under the cowl of an F-body. Its pretty tight under there, see photos.
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Re: MTI 434ci C5R - Colonel's Engine </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Colonel:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by FASST:
<strong>So once you build a motor like that, what next? Looks sweet though.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That was the idea. To build the end all badass NA LS1 style engine....trying to leave nothing more that we could have done. So, maybe we'll lower the C/R (ALOT!) and slap a set of TTs or a direct port setup on it one day?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by FASST:
<strong>So once you build a motor like that, what next? Looks sweet though.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That was the idea. To build the end all badass NA LS1 style engine....trying to leave nothing more that we could have done. So, maybe we'll lower the C/R (ALOT!) and slap a set of TTs or a direct port setup on it one day?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />