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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 11:22 PM
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Looking for some advise on whats size/spec of a cam to use for my 383 build that will get me into the 11's but have street manners, i'm am using 215cc heads, bbk intake and tb, 3.90 gears and the car is a m6.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 12:21 AM
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Do you want specific spec numbers or general like duration/lift? get rid of that intake system first. And ur current setup should be faster. tune ur car and get good tires.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 02:41 AM
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that should be easy for a 383 ls1 to go 11s and be driveable. my motor is just about to go back in my car and im hoping for low 11s high 10s if i hook. My build is a 383 with ported ls6 heads, ms4 cam, t56, and a 8.8 rearend.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 11:00 AM
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I know the intake sucks, but it'll have to do me for another year or two...I would like to get an idea of some spec's ie; duration, lift and lsa . The set-up in my signature is no more, I split my crank in two pieces.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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I know the intake sucks, but it'll have to do me for another year or two...I would like to get an idea of some spec's ie; duration, lift and lsa . The set-up in my signature is no more, I split my crank in two pieces.
how did you break the crank?!
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TR230/224 should help ya out or go with the TR230/236. the reverse split TR230/224 is a proven cam and alot of people love it
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by justin gibbons
looking for some advise on whats size/spec of a cam to use for my 383 build that will get me into the 11's but have street manners, i'm am using 215cc heads, bbk intake and tb, 3.90 gears and the car is a m6.
p.m. Predator-z he will hook you up with a cam
make sure to let him know what you have and what you want
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by franksaltz28
that should be easy for a 383 ls1 to go 11s and be driveable. my motor is just about to go back in my car and im hoping for low 11s high 10s if i hook. My build is a 383 with ported ls6 heads, ms4 cam, t56, and a 8.8 rearend.
i agree its not that hard my heads cam intake camaro went 11.1s @119 MPH with a 1.60 to 1.64 short time and i got 23 with the converter locked up driving 11 hours from central mississippi to galveston texas
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I'd say a good healthy 23x./24x. 61x./62x. 111+2 lsa cam would do pretty good for a 383 with those mods.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 01:33 PM
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TR230/224 should help ya out or go with the TR230/236. the reverse split TR230/224 is a proven cam and alot of people love it

Whats actually is reverse split?

For along time last year I had a bad vibration in the motor, I checked everything that I could with out pulling the motor...everything seem fine, so thought that the problem was electical or ecm....put the car on dyno, 2nd pull the car just shut off..did make any noise, just as if someone turn the key back to off. We turn the car over manually to be safe and sure enough we new some thing was broke. Turned out I had broke the crank in two, and twisted 1 connecting rod(8)...that was it for the damage....

I'm pretty sure the problem came form powershifting the car and a F_body/mustang shootout....I had a weak clutch and didn't want to lose as I had posted the quickest times for my class.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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pm ED curtis @ FTI he will hook you up
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TR230/224 should help ya out or go with the TR230/236. the reverse split TR230/224 is a proven cam and alot of people love it
So you're telling someone with a 383 that's an all stroke motor to go with a reverse split camshaft? I don't think I saw him mention he was trying to pull a boat with his camaro.

If you're just trying to go 11s on motor you're going waaay to big of a build. A stock bottom end with a mild camshaft and stock heads will get you there especially with a nice gear in that 8.8.
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For a 383 build i would go with a bigger cam. It should still be a great dd, and you will have plenty of power. Something like a ms3, ms4, raptor, t-rex, or polluter would be ideal.

just my 2 cents
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So you're telling someone with a 383 that's an all stroke motor to go with a reverse split camshaft? I don't think I saw him mention he was trying to pull a boat with his camaro.

If you're just trying to go 11s on motor you're going waaay to big of a build. A stock bottom end with a mild camshaft and stock heads will get you there especially with a nice gear in that 8.8.
lol whoops see this is why i need to wake up more before i post lol so i can find links to back up what i say
read posts about reverse splits
read these posts, thread started by predator Z about reverse splits
dyno numbers for tr230/224 on stock cubes
stock LS6 243s 440.6rwhp 414.9rwtq through a 12 bolt with 4.11 gears
towing a boat cam my *** lol
i'm goin with a reverse split but it's not the 230/224, it's the 227/224 and i'm not pulling a boat nor jet ski's lol
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by King Nothing
lol whoops see this is why i need to wake up more before i post lol so i can find links to back up what i say
read posts about reverse splits
read these posts, thread started by predator Z about reverse splits
dyno numbers for tr230/224 on stock cubes
stock LS6 243s 440.6rwhp 414.9rwtq through a 12 bolt with 4.11 gears
towing a boat cam my *** lol
i'm goin with a reverse split but it's not the 230/224, it's the 227/224 and i'm not pulling a boat nor jet ski's lol
None of those had ANY relation to a stroker + reverse split.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 10:05 PM
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What is reverse split?
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Justin Gibbons
What is reverse split?
Refers to the duration specs of the camshaft.. traditional split would be having more exhaust duration than intake (ie. 228/232). The reverse split refers to an intake duration higher than the exhaust (ie. 230/224).

They can work very well on stock size engines, however, I highly doubt anyone would spec you a reverse split camshaft for a 383 unless like I said, you intend on pulling a boat or have special interest of needing an insane amount of torque in areas where most of us wouldn't need it.
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why exactly wouldn't a reverse split cam work with a 383?

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...tr230-cam.html

but i see what your saying of course if it's the BBK intake i'm thinking of it's a restrictive intake set-up so a reverse split sound pretty good from what i've been reading i have alot more reading to do about this stuff

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why exactly wouldn't a reverse split cam work with a 383?

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...tr230-cam.html

but i see what your saying of course if it's the BBK intake i'm thinking of it's a restrictive intake set-up so a reverse split sound pretty good from what i've been reading i have alot more reading to do about this stuff
The 6.0 is just a larger bore, a whole lot different than stroking.

It will work, it will work with any cam. Putting a camshaft that was designed around a stock bottom end engine to make great midrange torque into a stroker that is going to make crazy torque to begin with just doesn't seem wise. It will make a shitload of torque where you would never need it (ie. 3k and under) and die out when it starts getting up above 5k.
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The 6.0 is just a larger bore, a whole lot different than stroking.

It will work, it will work with any cam. Putting a camshaft that was designed around a stock bottom end engine to make great midrange torque into a stroker that is going to make crazy torque to begin with just doesn't seem wise. It will make a shitload of torque where you would never need it (ie. 3k and under) and die out when it starts getting up above 5k.
ok making more sense to me now, sorry for the confusion
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