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Old 12-23-2009, 07:53 AM
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on your website it says

LXR-ETP CNC Ported 215 Heads: $2449 New Castings with 11* Valve Angle
Fully CNC Ports and Combustion Chambers
2.040” Stainless Intake Valves
1.570” Stainless Exhaust Valves
FTI Dual Valve Spring Package
Viton Valve Seals
Includes Custom Rocker Stands
320/211 CFM at .600” – 3.900 Bore

so it includes springs for $2450 or are these different heads...

Also the exhaust flow at .600 seems really low is that just a typo, arent most other heads in the 250-260 range
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Ed probably can't post prices, i'm guessing the MAP pricing is a "LIST" type of price.

Looking good.
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That appears to be the old ETP pricing-alot of those do not exist now.I think Ed needs to update his site
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So can I get these in 225 cc for my ls2? Also can I get them at 59cc for 11.5.1 comp? Will they clear a 230/234 cam after being milled to 59cc? How do these compare to the TFS or prc 227's?
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I have to ask, has Performance Induction/Cary/Old ET fixed the supply issues? If there has ever been a company that has a great product, that I could never seem to get my hands on, even begging, it was these guys.

Prices are great. Product looks good as always. Now, can we actually get them?
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I believe the ETP heads on Eds site are indeed the old ones.I don't think any flownumbers on the new ones were posted yet.BUT I want to point out I think ETP did not use a pipe on their exhaust port.The flownumbers on the exhaust will be lower than AFR or TFS which use a pipe.If you are going to compare the numbers to pick your heads you have to know what your comparing.There should be some people on here that can give an approximate % difference for using a pipe?
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Originally Posted by redsap05
So can I get these in 225 cc for my ls2? Also can I get them at 59cc for 11.5.1 comp? Will they clear a 230/234 cam after being milled to 59cc? How do these compare to the TFS or prc 227's?
PI has 215 and 245 heads for the 4.00'' bore.there would be no problems milling them to 59cc-not sure of the actual valve drop for cam clearance.

For pricing and options

http://shop.virginiaspeed.com/category.sc?categoryId=64
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Originally Posted by Louis
I have to ask, has Performance Induction/Cary/Old ET fixed the supply issues? If there has ever been a company that has a great product, that I could never seem to get my hands on, even begging, it was these guys.

Prices are great. Product looks good as always. Now, can we actually get them?
Louis,i know they had some issues with the castings before.Cary spent alot of time to make sure he could keep up with demand before he advertised any of his heads.I feel confident it will be much easier to get these heads than before when ETP owned it.
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so no flow numbers have been released?
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Anyone here read or watch EMC? Congratulations you guys, Tony and BES came in second place against the very best in the world using these guys products and that speaks louder than any bench number! 1 look at those intake and ex runners and you can tell these will make power!
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Originally Posted by Shawn @ VA Speed
PI has 215 and 245 heads for the 4.00'' bore.there would be no problems milling them to 59cc-not sure of the actual valve drop for cam clearance.

For pricing and options

http://shop.virginiaspeed.com/category.sc?categoryId=64
Shawn,

Surely they're not really priced EACH? That would be $5800 a pair!
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everything is by the pair
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ETP made some of/the best castings on the market. We'll see if the demand can keep up this time. I know guys who waited 12+ months on ETP to fill their order.....some of them were never filled.
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It's really not fair to compare Performance Inductions to ETP,2 totally different companies making the same products.I say we give Cary a chance before we talk about delivery issues.
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Hey. Ed do you have a stake in these heads?
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Originally Posted by Ed Curtis
LXR CNC Ported 215 Heads: $
New Design Castings with 11* Valve Angle
Fully CNC Ports and Combustion Chambers
3.900 Bore has 62cc or 68cc Chambers
4.000 Bore has 66cc or 70cc Chambers
4.125 Bore has 68cc or 73cc Chambers
Relocated Valve Stem Centerlines
2.040” Stainless Intake Valves
1.570” Stainless Exhaust Valves
1.600” Stainless Exhaust Valves (optional)
Uses stock L92/LS3 or aftermarket rocker arms
Just out of curiosity, how are the valve stem centerlines relocated to allow stock rockers?
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Originally Posted by Shawn @ VA Speed
It's really not fair to compare Performance Inductions to ETP,2 totally different companies making the same products.I say we give Cary a chance before we talk about delivery issues.
I agree.

When I'm ready to build my next personal project, these will definitely be the cylinder heads of choice.
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Originally Posted by KCS
Just out of curiosity, how are the valve stem centerlines relocated to allow stock rockers?
the rocker selection has nothing to do with valve location,but rather the location of the pushrod and rocker pivot compared to the valve location.
you can use ls3 rockers on stock ls1 heads if you put the pivot location and pushrod hole in the correct location for them
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So what's going on with the heads?? Has any 215's on a SBE been tested??? If not I would be willing to test a set on the engine dyno, and chassis dyno, and then prove there power and back it up at the track!!!!! I really want some info on thes heads. Been looking for the best heads for my cam only car to turn it into a screaming H/C/I car.
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Same here!


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