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Old 12-21-2009, 06:09 PM
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I really dont want to do the heads yet because of the amount of money I will have to spend, $2000 for the heads then I probably will need injectors and possibly a fuel pump.

I am debating on going with the below cam or go with a T rex, MS3 or something similiar. Driveability isnt an issue as much as sound and power.

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Duration @ .050 236 240

Lift .630 .612

LSA : 111
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It gets old just like any other mod. But, if you are on a budget, you have to draw the line somewhere. I have had my cam for probably 10 months, and realized **** is going to start getting really expensive beyond that. I am pretty bored, but have spent my money else where to make the car more enjoyable. Just put in an aftermarket head unit yesterday, and I am really enjoying that.

The one thing about a cam that I enjoy, is that its one of those mods that people freak out over. I pull up to a gas station with the car sounding like a drag car, and people have to ask me questions, and I enjoy that. Don't get me wrong, I mod my car for myself, not because I need to compensate for something... but I enjoy the compliments.

That being said, my next mod will definitely be a 9 inch with a short gear. 3.42's, and a big cam make you feel like you have ridiculous turbo lag. I have raced bolt on cars, and they will stay right beside me until I get in the power band. Be wise with your money, and make sure you have everything you need before you jump into a cam swap. I really wish I would have bought a 9" when I had the money, instead of a cam and clutch.
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if your looking for cam only, and arent into all the dyno numbers and whatnot, ide honestly get something abit smaller then that. My first cam was a 226/230 .609/.588 on a 111+1. That came with some ported 243 heads made 425/395 to the rear tire through full exhaust. Ide be willing to bet that would be a 400-410rwhp cam and the curve was out of this world! Peaked at 6300 and literally drove like stock. Here is an idle clip of the car. I could have lowered the idle abit more to get it to chop. (still needes a little bit of idle tuning, hence the near stall)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GymycRd8T2I
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here is also a short 0-125 clip. Spinning on DR's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIRoSYf0EBQ
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The T-Rex sounded sweet but it was no grandma cam. Cold starts and fouled plugs were rough. It'll be a head turner with those kind of numbers but you sacrifice driveability.

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I really dont want to do the heads yet because of the amount of money I will have to spend, $2000 for the heads then I probably will need injectors and possibly a fuel pump.

I am debating on going with the below cam or go with a T rex, MS3 or something similiar. Driveability isnt an issue as much as sound and power.

Street sweeper
Specs Int Exh

Duration @ .050 236 240

Lift .630 .612

LSA : 111
Old 12-21-2009, 08:09 PM
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I did the cam only thing...I personally was not too thrilled. I have a 232/236 and drivability is great but I thought it would pull much harder! TOP end however feels pretty good. The very next paycheck I got my FAST 92/92 and a 150 wet kit of Nitrous. Thats just my experience though.
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about the same as most here lol, cam only right now and i picked up an LS2 from work for $200 either going stock displacement or 402 but basically it never ends! lol
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I enjoyed cam only for about a year.

As others have said, picking the right cam is the secret. Personally, I like the 'smaller' cams..int the range of a 224-228.

I will say though, that heads really add that extra edge.The throttle response is amazing, and the added HP/TQ is really there when you hit the throttle.

So, it just depends on your personality and personal preference. As I said, I only lasted a year 'cam only', before the mod bug hit me.

Good luck which ever way you go..

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till I go low 10's
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Studderin, What is the rpm range on the streetsweeper?
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Ms4 cam/4000 converter/full exhaust all done at the same time.. Kept me happy for about 3-4 months.. Then I added ported intake/gears at the same time.. Kept me happy for aroun 4 months and I added PRCLs6 heads and ripped a ton of weight out of the car.. Then I sold it..
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Wow, seems like most of you the cam only keeps you happy for about 4 to 6 months. Are you going to the track alot? I only go like once a year.
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I only hit the track ~ 1-2 times a year.

We have a lot of safe wide-open roads out here, so the combo of Heads & Cam comes in handy with just 'normal' driving.

If one can get to a 400HP with cam and bolt-ons and not go to big on the cam itself, I think you could be satisfied. At that point going adding another 20-30 HP with heads is not quite as noticeable. In my case I needed the combo of H/C to get over 400 HP.

Our track is somewhat inconvenient, and at 5800 feet performance is drastically reduced. But, I am sure you can get a lot of guys who hit the track more frequently. I may be in the minority as I wanted my combo to be 90% street, 10% track.

Hope all the ideas are helping you.

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I did a custom 224 cam with 243 heads at the same time. I was always disappointed when I went to the track because I didn't have a 9" to launch on. The fear of breaking my 10 bolt limited me to my shitty street tires. I will be doing a 9" here soon but I have always wanted a procharged car. I don't go to the track very often but I have tried to tune my *** off and the bucking and surging kinda get annoying for daily driving.

I'm not a noob at tuning either, I've tuned a 04 Trex cam only gto that bucks less. But still if you try and cruise below 10 mph in 1st gear around say a parking lot or something. It gets real old throwing the clutch in all the time. You really need 4.11's with an m6 and a cam to enjoy it.

But hey my 224 cam isn't your average 224 cam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed8s0ovoQDU

Did I mention a great powerband?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYIqTCqFy7U

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That 224 has more chop than I thought it would. How much overlap, and what LSA?
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Wow, Nitroused383 your setup sounds really nice.

You have a lot more guts than me..I think I have lost my nerve to do a 0-150 MPH run. Pretty wild ride!

Interesting power-band on your shifts. You only drop to ~5200 Rpm's with your shifts. Maybe I just have not a full WOT run lately..seems like my Rpm's drop a little more.

What exhaust do you have?

To the OP, I apologize if we are deviating from your post. Hope the additional information helps you.

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IMO if you think you may go heads in the near future then I would wait because when you add the heads it would probably be best find a cam that works best with your head choice or you wouldn't fully benefit from them. By the sounds of what you are describing a cam would make you happy, you probably wouldn't notice a big difference with heads unless you were an ET ***** like some of us. Lol
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I have the slp dual dual with a 3.5" cutout. With the cutout closed the cam is noticeable but it tames it very much. Can't give out the cam specs but it has over 10 degrees of overlap.
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Originally Posted by SWEET98SS
Studderin, What is the rpm range on the streetsweeper?

Not crazy, in fact the car go faster having the shiftligh at 6500 then higher. I've been told buy a lot of cam only guys I'd go faster taking it to 7 but it gose slower. Where they run faster, doing so. But then agian its not that big of a cam 236/240. Its the 2nd smallest cam to make it on the cam only list, I know and probally with go to a real big *** cam next year. Mikes tunes really good, I can go 1-2-3-4-5-6 to 40mph its not going to buck, or shake. But ***** slow, and its stupid for thinking its cooler to havbe a little 22x cam so you can be faster 2-4K rpms. Just learn how to drive the car, stay over 4K and your rip any smaller car apart. Like this me NA streetsweeper cam/ TA 231/237 TSP cam I think? +100 MAF plate kit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmePVXcJcKo
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I dont think I am going to do heads for at least 5 years, going to be buying a bigger house soon. What do you gusy think of the T rex or MS3 or MS4, Hellion. I want a bad axx sounding car , drivability isnt a problem, I would actually enjoy it, I think.


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