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Old 12-20-2003, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by bodhi
OK- well why not just keep everything simple and get the TR230? The one that DOESN'T require the "good" springs to perform properly and be dependable. Does that make sense now?


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Manley Duals are a direct drop in capable of close to .650 lift....why not the added insurance......it all even out in price because of the diff in price of the cam...sorry I misspelled teacher...I've never done this before.
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I'd rather run higher lift and excellent springs than lower lift and lesser springs...especially when the heads are capable of taking advantage of the extra lift.
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Originally Posted by JoSeY
Manley Duals are a direct drop in capable of close to .650 lift....why not the added insurance......it all even out in price because of the diff in price of the cam...sorry I misspelled teacher...I've never done this before.

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Old 12-20-2003, 05:01 PM
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I'm running a 112 X1 on my Z06 with the stock heads (other than the manley duals), pulley, stainless works lt's, 3" dr gas catted xpipe, stinger catback, and tuned by Chris Robinson. Its pulled 410/395 sae at a couple of different dynos and my best et is 11.40 at 120, 1.58 60ft. Thats with the 3.42 stock rear and CCW et street. HRP 11-9-03, +800 DA ft.

The car idles incredibly well. I drove the car all the way to hrp from DFW getting 33mpg each way....

btw...here's the vid of the 11.40 pass:

http://www.corndesigns.com/vids/s10vsmeanie.mpg

and yes, that little s10/luv (not sure what it was) is fast. Most folks were telling me I was going to lose....in fact, I think alot of money was swapping hands in the stands after I pulled it out

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in the end..more lift/duration = more potential for power
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Go with the X1. You will love it!
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Cool vid BLU-BY-U!

I am getting the X1 on 114. MTI convinced me that I should get it with that LSA. I guess I will ask for the "Choppy Tune" if I want to hear it.
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Colonels original response is still the best and truest.

For what it is worth. I run 127mph through the 1/4 using the X1 and MTI heads as the motor combo.
not too shabby for a A4.


Just from personal exp i would vote for the X1 as the cam to choose.
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Raughammer, Is yours on 112 or 114?
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OHHHH, I would bet that's on a 112 lsa but not 100% sure!!!!! Will be surprised if its not!!!
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Originally Posted by Raughammer
Colonels original response is still the best and truest.

For what it is worth. I run 127mph through the 1/4 using the X1 and MTI heads as the motor combo.
not too shabby for a A4.


Just from personal exp i would vote for the X1 as the cam to choose.
I'M running 127+ With MTI heads....on a cold night I ran 130 and got seriously booted from HRP. Also depends on tranny....I have a 4000 3 disc vig and launch like a ****

If you have a 6sdp it takes a lot of praftice to get it right....
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I've got the X1 cam and love it. I considered the TR230 as well... I'm not as worried about spring life with the better springs that are out now, so I would assume that the X1 is worth slightly more HP on the top end ~3-5..(?) The way I look at it, getting the X1 is like getting the TR230 + a bolt-on.

The other consideration was lsa (111 on the TR230); the guys at Thunder told me the TR230 idle quality made it almost more "racecar" than streetcar. My Z is a daily driver, so I appreciated their honesty and went with the X1 which is slightly more tame (112 lsa).

Both MTI and Thunder are first class IMO so you can't go wrong either way.
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Originally Posted by J2KSS
Raughammer, Is yours on 112 or 114?

112 amigo, 112.
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Mine ended up getting installed on 112. Im glad.
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I went with the TR 230/224 cam for my street car, which is now a race car, but the cam has been in my car for a year now. I drove every day with an automatic and the 230/224-111 with a little tuning has a never a problem on the street. I personally LOVE the choppy idle sound, sometimes I think about a 110 cam

Anyway I ran a new best last Sat 10.60@126. Like Colonel mentioned the 2 sticks are so close to each other, I bet if I put the X1 in my car I'd run pretty much the same ET.

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Raughammer what gear are you running, what do you shift at, and what rpm do you cross the finish line? Thanks
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He runs 3:73's in a stock 10 bolt w/series 2 carrier, he shifts between 6500-7000..can't answer his finish line RPM but mine was right at 6300 w/323 gears.....
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would the TR cam be ok to use with the comp 918 springs ?
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Originally Posted by jruss
would the TR cam be ok to use with the comp 918 springs ?

I have a chance to pick up a TR230 at a great price, and I also have 918's. I need info on this also. Thanks
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that's what i'm running. along with many others with this cam. i havn't heard of a single problem with this combo



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