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Hey guys, I have a 00 T/A 6 spd, 80k miles, is pretty close to stock, purchased off an older guy. It has an slp loud mouth, just punched out the cats to free up some air flow. Im looking to get a nice power increase for my $. I'm thinking about switching to an ls6 cam. Would it be worth it & what gains could i expect to see?
TSP cam kit $590.timing chain $90,cam change gasket kit $78,oil pump $100.for this much money do not waste it on the small gains of the LS6 cam.look around for a while and see what kind of power gain you like.ask alot more questions.
It all depends on what your looking to do. You have other options to look at before you go straight into the cam, and there a ton of supporting mods you would have to consider purchasing with the cam swap. Look into a lid, filter, consider doing the free mods. You can go L/T headers, ls6 intake, underdrive pully, and tune. Chk to make sure that your t/b is opening up all the way. Little things make a big diff. It all depends on what your gonna do with the car. But just throwing a cam in her isn't the first, or cheapest thing to look at. Good luck.
I ended up going with a bigger cam, .605 intake, .605 exhaust, 232 intake 234 exhaust. 112LSA made by Futral. A buddy of mine had it laying around, excellent condition. Gave me a set of new rockers with it. Says i need to get dual valve springs and hardened push rods. If someone is familar with this cam, what kind of gains can i expect to see from it. Will also be getting it tuned after installation. I've always done the simple bolt-ons with previous cars (headers, intakes, exhaust, ect.) Never was satisfied, which is why I chose to go with a cam, a road I havent yet traveled. I'm hoping for better results.
I would save up money and try to get a more bigger cam and get maybe 40-50 hp? Seen a lot of set ups for sale and they go for maybe $550. But then you might need a stall lol. And of course you will need your needed bolt ons. The list just keeps growing and growing You wont get much out of the ls6 cam only maybe about 15 hp.
OP, I just installed my ls6 cam into my sleeper build yesterday.... I have a 6.0 iron block with 243s, ls6 intake, longtubes, stock catback and 11.56scr. I'm shocked at the amount of power i picked up from 3k up. I have had a 224 cam, and an MS4 cam.... I couldnt really get any traction.. even in 3rd gear in my A4. I kept having to get on and off the throttle. It feels insane though. Im very impressed with the cam especially since its a stock piece. I need to raise my rev limiters from 6400 to 7k. Set shift points to 6700-6800. It pulls incredible but short shifts a little too soon. When i hold it in gear to the rev limiter, it is still pulling hard up to the limiter. I went from a 98 vette cam as a temp cam to this cam. The other cam felt like a stove above 5k. Basically OP, there are cams that will get you more power but in no way will you not be satisfied with this cam. I know i am. It pulls as hard as my MS4/241/347 setup on the top end but absolutely destroys it in lower rpm power and torque. I vote use it.... Good luck in your decision.
Why install a ls6 cam?? You can gain the same amount from a 1.85 ratio rocker swap. Look in the fs section you can find them used for around 360.00, upgrade the springs and you basically have an ls6 cam without all the damn hassle of swapping cams. Evangto87, swap an ms4 or torquer v.3 in your current setup and tell me that ls6 cam will pull as hard up top. you need to compare apples to apples bud... A decent set of heads with a small cam will always outperform a crappy set of heads and a huge cam, its all about setup...
I ended up going with a bigger cam, .605 intake, .605 exhaust, 232 intake 234 exhaust. 112LSA made by Futral. A buddy of mine had it laying around, excellent condition. Gave me a set of new rockers with it. Says i need to get dual valve springs and hardened push rods. If someone is familar with this cam, what kind of gains can i expect to see from it. Will also be getting it tuned after installation. I've always done the simple bolt-ons with previous cars (headers, intakes, exhaust, ect.) Never was satisfied, which is why I chose to go with a cam, a road I havent yet traveled. I'm hoping for better results.
Expect a choked up car that drives like a sack of **** unless you do all the supporting mods either before or at the same time the cam is installed.
All these "simple bolt-ons that never satisfied you", are what sets the stage for the bigger mods like a cam and heads.
honestly if your going to the work of swapping a cam, id go with something a bit larger. you will get tired of that cam quickly and realize you probably should have went a different route. just my .02
Why install a ls6 cam?? You can gain the same amount from a 1.85 ratio rocker swap. Look in the fs section you can find them used for around 360.00, upgrade the springs and you basically have an ls6 cam without all the damn hassle of swapping cams. Evangto87, swap an ms4 or torquer v.3 in your current setup and tell me that ls6 cam will pull as hard up top. you need to compare apples to apples bud... A decent set of heads with a small cam will always outperform a crappy set of heads and a huge cam, its all about setup...
yes i understand the whole setup thing. And i can say this current one has way more power under the curve and idles completely stock... and its my favorite setup this far. My first setup was a 346ci AFR/TR224 and it was fun but i felt like i spent too much money to not be going that fast. Second setup was a forged 347ci MS4/241 (sold AFRs to build shortblock). That motor was a little more radical and slightly faster (buzzed it 7200). Now im onto a complete budget sleeper build. 6.0, custom worked 243s, ls6 intake, kooks long tubes, stock catback, 11.56scr. I went an 02 ls1 cam to the 02 ls6 and the motor now makes sense. Im picking up a set of rockers and an ewp then hitting it with a 150 plate. I can already tell you that it is faster then both my other setups. Might not seem that way on paper. Sure theres more in it if i changed the cylinder heads and speced a custom grind radical cam. I dont want that. It drives like a car comes off the show room floor, but will blast out 11 second passes all day. This cam is proven in my eyes. I dont think i have ever seen my exact setup online but i can tell you, it works. Not every cam is for everyone. Another nice perk is the look on someones face when they just got walked by a "stock" car.
P.S. I spent around 1500 total for the short block, heads, cam, intake, etc.
Last edited by evangto87; Feb 18, 2010 at 05:43 PM.
Well now you guys have me worried. I'm getting advise from two respected mechanics, one of which sold me the cam. Said he had in his 00 camaro ss, and ran great. Im ordering the push rods & springs, having those put in along with the cam, & having the computer sent out to be reprogrammed. I'm doing the cam in hopes for more satisfying results. Wasnt aware i would be needing headers and such to make the cam work properly? I have never done internal work on any of my vehicles, so I'm going by what I'm told. With the cam and tune, I am hoping to reach 12s.
I can already tell you that with stock heads and cast manifolds.... an ls6 cam is going to be more effective. The reason is the split difference. 204-218 =14 degree. 232-234 = 2 degree. The 232/234 is going to need headers and a much better flowing exhaust port in your cylinder head. I would not use that cam with cast manifolds and stock heads. Just my o2
There's nothing wrong with that cam, you just need the supporting bolt-ons to go along with it.
12s are nothing. I went 12s with a lid and street tires the first time I ever took my car to the track. Went 12.30s with most bolt-ons and weak 1.8 short times (10 bolts suck).
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