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Old 02-21-2010, 08:15 AM
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Hes probably turned the thing 7500 rpms too many times on stock rod bolts...
Old 02-21-2010, 08:32 AM
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youll be ok.
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Originally Posted by BlackBirdRyder02
and the oil was black and wasnt good

Whut deed it taist lYkE..???? bUrNened BiZkitz..??????

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Old 02-21-2010, 09:23 AM
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Sooo afraid for bad english but here goes...what is the rest of the story behind it??? like did he just build the motor....just curious on hp/tq....what mods with what supporting mods...details man details!!!
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A blown motor is the DynoGod's way of telling you that your rwhp is entirely inadequate and you really need a new motor.
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he had shopping list of stuff. ok here its goes he had a (starting from the front) a 224 on a 114 lsa cam, 243 heads, fast 90/90 ported by fasterproms intake, fast fuel rails, 30lbs injectors, 160 degree thermostate,ls6 ported oil pump, mezimer electric water pump(street version), volant cold air intake, tranny cooler, 3000 stall on a stocky wocky tranny, "BUILT" 10 bolt with 3.73's in it. yea i said BUILT FOR YOU SPENDING ON A 12 and 9 bolt FOOOOOLS everything was under a 1000 for us lol it can be done. but back on track. no the cam and heads been on there he was driving untune for a while. The killer part about it is we just just got the car out the shop for some extra work its been sittin there for a while like months and when the man put it on the dyno he was onl making 390 to the wheels untune and the last pull befor it gave out was 430 to the wheels. so what yall think
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Yea...people who do 9' are such FOOOOOOOLS Do some good 60fts off a 7k clutch dump...see how far ANY built 10 bolt gets you.

Anyhow, sounds like he didn't maintain it to good for starters. You said the oil was black, sounds he didn't change it to often. Dyno won't make it go to black lol. And you mentioned he drove it for a long time with no tune....that's NO good as well.
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Originally Posted by BlackBirdRyder02
he had shopping list of stuff. ok here its goes he had a (starting from the front) a 224 on a 114 lsa cam, 243 heads, fast 90/90 ported by fasterproms intake, fast fuel rails, 30lbs injectors, 160 degree thermostate,ls6 ported oil pump, mezimer electric water pump(street version), volant cold air intake, tranny cooler, 3000 stall on a stocky wocky tranny, "BUILT" 10 bolt with 3.73's in it. yea i said BUILT FOR YOU SPENDING ON A 12 and 9 bolt FOOOOOLS everything was under a 1000 for us lol it can be done. but back on track. no the cam and heads been on there he was driving untune for a while. The killer part about it is we just just got the car out the shop for some extra work its been sittin there for a while like months and when the man put it on the dyno he was onl making 390 to the wheels untune and the last pull befor it gave out was 430 to the wheels. so what yall think
how long was a while? did he beat on it much before he got it tuned? Did he change the oil before he went for the tune?, since he did drive it untuned. the changing of the oil pump could be what happened, but you say he drove it before going and getting a tune so if there was an issue with the instal of the pump I would expect it to show up fairly quickly. Anyone know of o-ring failure or pick up falling off sometime after the installation? From what I hear if the o-ring is screwed up you will know it from start up b/c of the lack of oil pressure. Its possible the pick up could have fallen off starving the motor of oil. Another possibility could be that considering he drove it untuned for a while, it was probably running rich in the lower rpms and he could have contaminated the oil, which would cause the oil not to lubricate properly. The dark oil could be a sign of this happening if the oil was not very old.

Honestly, like said before in this thread, I don't see how a dyno would be anymore stressful than a WOT street/track run. Actually a dyno could be considered safer because the operator is able to watch the engine's vitals were it would be difficult to do so on the street.

If everything is in good working order on your car and you install the parts properly, you have no reason to be worried about blowing it on a dyno.
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the while was like a month and soon as it came out we went straight there. and yea he did got on in a few times
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Originally Posted by BlackBirdRyder02
the while was like a month and soon as it came out we went straight there. and yea he did got on in a few times
what kinda rpm was it turning when it let lose?
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[QUOTE="BUILT" 10 bolt with 3.73's in it. yea i said BUILT FOR YOU SPENDING ON A 12 and 9 bolt FOOOOOLS everything was under a 1000 for us lol it can be done. [/QUOTE]


lmfao 12 bolts and 9''s are for fools? putting any money into a 10bolt is worthless, 10 bolt=junk.... and your buddy shouldnt of bin driving on a untune thats what probly killed it and if he had stock rod bolts, they probly started to stretch at high rpm's and wiped the bearing out throwing the rod.......
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as far as legal purposes go what happens if you send you car in for a cam swap an somthing happens like this on the dyno? isn't the shop responsible for a rebuild?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZdo39MMNMg

Don't be scared as long as your car was put together right, it should be fine, I have stock rods, pistons, crank. BUT I also have high flow/pressure oil pump, k-tech rods bolts, tv.2 cam, home ported heads. This video is trying to get the tune perfect, ended up with 424 hp in an auto 3600 stall 12 bolt 3.73 gears.

I lost count but look at how many pulls we made revving to 6,600-7,000 rpm.
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This is what happens when you get on your motor too early and without a tune. It only lasted 1 week. 5K build. Learned my lesson.!!!! Why didn't I tune it. Didn't have enought money for it but need a car to go to work. Could not resist the temptation
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do you think the cam and heads are messed up?
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the only time a 10 bolt is built, is when its manufactured.
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Originally Posted by BlackBirdRyder02
the while was like a month and soon as it came out we went straight there. and yea he did got on in a few times
Bro get your *** back in school
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but what about the cam and heads
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sorry for the fool that was typing in my account he is a 10 bolt freak (thats his car). lol im like do it once and it right get a 12 or 9 its really not that much . but back on the real subject what about the cam and heads do you think they are safe?



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