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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 03:53 AM
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So im putting heads/cam in my 99 T/A. the cam i got is a howards cam. in the cam card it says for flat tappet cam break-in, on very first start to run the motor up to 2500 rpm for 10 mins. shut it down, let it cool completely, and then run it at 2500 rpm for another 10 mins. in big bold letters it says DO NOT LET CAR IDLE ON FIRST START, is this necessary? i cant imagine firing up a dry motor and running it immediately to 2500 rpm can be good? especially since i have fresh valve springs, dont they need to be run at low rpm until the motor is hot and then allowed to cool to harden? I used ARP assembly lube on everything and i plan to use a light weight conventional oil like 5w20 for a few thousand miles. Any feedback please, thankyou.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 04:54 AM
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Yeah, I don't understand that one. You'll want to establish oil pressure first before you even attempt to rev up the motor. Howards? Never heard of them.

They might be thinking of heat cycles, but I don't understand the 2500 rpm thing to cycle it.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 05:55 AM
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You have a roller camshaft, that is for a flat tappet just like the instructions say. There is no break in for a roller.

Like 00MaroonZ28 said, oil pressure should have been established first anyways.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 69LT1Bird
You have a roller camshaft, that is for a flat tappet just like the instructions say. There is no break in for a roller.

Like 00MaroonZ28 said, oil pressure should have been established first anyways.
Yup no break in for roller cams. Just heat cycle the valve springs a few times and your ready to rock.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 07:24 AM
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Hang on. So you installed this cam already??!?!!

Yikes... Did it come with the solid/flat tappet lifters? Hate to tell you this, but you got an SBC cam. Howards has been around for a while, but they do not have LS1 parts just BBC and SBC Ford/Chevy/Chrysler stuff. It wont work for a number of reasons but also because you dont have a distributor or dist gear. I'm not sure, but it may work in an LT1/4.

Take it back or ship it back.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 07:29 AM
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Do some research before you give this guy a stroke.

http://www.howardscams.com/index.php...=291&Itemid=11
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Well, if he got it installed then that would be one thing. If it has a dist gear thats another. Also, they either don't know what they are selling or how to advertise it on that site. Look at the rocker ratio they have on there. change that to a 1.7 and those would be some big *** cams.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 69LT1Bird
You have a roller camshaft, that is for a flat tappet just like the instructions say. There is no break in for a roller.

Like 00MaroonZ28 said, oil pressure should have been established first anyways.
Ya i wasnt even thinking since they do manufacture cams for sbc and ls, the instructions for flat tappet would probably be different.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by orangeapeel
Hang on. So you installed this cam already??!?!!

Yikes... Did it come with the solid/flat tappet lifters? Hate to tell you this, but you got an SBC cam. Howards has been around for a while, but they do not have LS1 parts just BBC and SBC Ford/Chevy/Chrysler stuff. It wont work for a number of reasons but also because you dont have a distributor or dist gear. I'm not sure, but it may work in an LT1/4.

Take it back or ship it back.
Ya its in the motor. it wouldnt fit if it wasnt an LS1 cam, and it looked just like the one i pulled out, i might be confused on the break in but im not that confused! they do make cams for LS1, it came with my patriot heads/cam package, and no lifters, im using ls7 lifters.
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No worries, Howards sends that card with the VE's for the cam with every cam they ship, even hydraulic roller LS1 cams. You'll be fine, no special break-in needed.
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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 12:31 AM
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great thanks guys! so are there any specifics for break-in duration? i am planning on using a 5w20 conventional oil, but how many miles should i run this oil, and how many miles between the first few changes before its "broke-in"?
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Originally Posted by baddbird99
great thanks guys! so are there any specifics for break-in duration? i am planning on using a 5w20 conventional oil, but how many miles should i run this oil, and how many miles between the first few changes before its "broke-in"?
you should be fine with the oil youve been running.
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Roller cams don't need any special attention. Like was said above, heat cycle the springs before you rev it to the moon.
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Well, im glad it was just the card that was confusing. FWIW: Howards site sucks teh bawls.
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Originally Posted by baddbird99
Ya i wasnt even thinking since they do manufacture cams for sbc and ls, the instructions for flat tappet would probably be different.
LS cams must have been a fairly new edition to their lineup. Last catalogue I flipped through at the parts store had nothing about LSX anything.
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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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well i run mobil 1 5w30 normally, with lucas oil additive. so it should be fine to just go ahead and dump in my mobil 1? probably without the additive for the first 3k miles? no light oil or low rpm for so many miles? i know about the heat cycling on the springs, i plan on getting it good and hot and then letting it cool down overnight a few times before i take it over 3k rpm
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Please don't ever run any additives and the springs have already been heat treated (tempered) from the factory so nail that bitch and start saving for some new tires....
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 04:12 AM
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why shouldnt i run lucas additive? ive had as many good opinions as i have bad on that. my final deciding factor was the tiny metal particles in my oil (which after i pulled the cam out decided it was probably from my front cam bearing) so i decided to try it, the guy at carquest, also an f-body junkie, said he ran it and reccomended it if i was going to run anyhting. what is your opinion on that? and the springs are dual gold springs, are you sure they will be fine without heat cycling?
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 05:28 AM
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I wouldn't worry about the additives. The break in for the springs won't be that long. Just let the engine warm up before you hammer on it. Cold springs don't like that.
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 08:04 AM
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I always liked to run cheap oil and change it after 50 miles.. my 98 z28 had a lot of gold in the oil after the cam swap.
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