Does it ever end :-( Ticking noise from motor area
#24
i been battling this car for the last 2 years lol been through alot including it driving through my basement cuz the shifter cable tore its just frutstraing it was finally running right lol
anyway the valves dont look bent im worried its a bottom end problem is there a chance the noise in the video is bottom end
anyway the valves dont look bent im worried its a bottom end problem is there a chance the noise in the video is bottom end
You can only see the TOP of the valves.....what Im concerned is the head of the valve is bent after it potentially collided with your piston when you hit the rev limiter.
This is all hypothetical (a guess on my part) but a bent valve would make noise and it would cause the engine to run rough.
Get a buddy and a leakdown gauge and spend an hour to check it out. That will also let you know the shape and condition of your shortblock anyway which isnt a bad thing and it will alert you immediately to my hypothetical situation (when you see a really crappy leak number and here all the air escaping into your intake manifold or header).
If you do have a bent valve and keep running it the head will eventually break off and you will be bigtime SOL then and have a worthless pile of alumunum and steel under your hood. Maybe you could re-use the intake at that point....dropped valves are not pretty.
-Tony
#25
#29
When you do the compression test it will identify any problem cylinders it will not isolate the problem. The compression test is done by attaching a PSI gauge with a one way valve to the spark plug hole and cranking the engine with the starter the gauge gives you a value and you compare each cylinder to other cylinders looking for consistency. You can buy one of these at any tool or autoparts store for pretty cheap.
A leakdown test requires an air compressor and the leakdown guage. With the engine positioned (or rockers removed) so both valves are closed you compress the cylinder with air from your compressor you have two psi gauges one with the PSI you're putting into the leakdown tool and one with the PSI the tool is measuring from the cylinder. This shows how much PSI the cylinder is "leaking" you always get leakdown around the piston rings thats normal like 5% or something. What you don't want is any leaking around the exhaust, intake valves, or head gasket. You can listen in the exhaust for air leaking there in the intake for air leaking there or in the radiator cap for bubbles indicating leakage from the head gasket. This will tell you your problem if there is a lot of leakage from the dipstick you have a piston/ring issue. Anything other than that like a spun bearing will not be diagnosed by a leakdown or compression test. You can buy the leakdown tool for cheap I got mine at harbor freight for $20.
Last edited by laughatrice; 03-20-2010 at 03:49 PM.
#30
keep us updated.
It doesn't take much to pull the valves and inspect the springs, push rods, or rockers.
Also doesn't take much to drop the oil pan and look at the crank.
But probably before poking around, a compression test should help narrow down the search.
Could also be stupid stuff like exhaust leaks. Some other users on here have also narrowed down valvetrain ticking to a bad seal on the oil pump creating air bubbles in the driver side cylinder and which made that part of the valvetrain tick.
It's best to look for problems now instead of driving and creating more damage.
It doesn't take much to pull the valves and inspect the springs, push rods, or rockers.
Also doesn't take much to drop the oil pan and look at the crank.
But probably before poking around, a compression test should help narrow down the search.
Could also be stupid stuff like exhaust leaks. Some other users on here have also narrowed down valvetrain ticking to a bad seal on the oil pump creating air bubbles in the driver side cylinder and which made that part of the valvetrain tick.
It's best to look for problems now instead of driving and creating more damage.
#33
Funny you say that, because I have a weird "clanking" noise that I was originally thinking was coming from the driver's side header area but the car ran beautifully...but when I leaned over the car further I began to think it was coming from the BACK of the motor in the converter area. Supposedly the Tranny I got was rebuilt from the place I got it from...
Wonder if that is my problem??!?!! Gah!!! So many potential places for problems...haha
Wonder if that is my problem??!?!! Gah!!! So many potential places for problems...haha
#34
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Funny you say that, because I have a weird "clanking" noise that I was originally thinking was coming from the driver's side header area but the car ran beautifully...but when I leaned over the car further I began to think it was coming from the BACK of the motor in the converter area. Supposedly the Tranny I got was rebuilt from the place I got it from...
Wonder if that is my problem??!?!! Gah!!! So many potential places for problems...haha
Wonder if that is my problem??!?!! Gah!!! So many potential places for problems...haha
Here is an easy read about a leakdown test>>> http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...ter/index.html