Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

X1 cam or 1X cam??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 11, 2010 | 08:45 PM
  #1  
Big Will's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 132
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Default X1 cam or 1X cam??

Had this cam laying around for some time and noticed on the end it had X1 stamped on it....no other markings. Been running a tr224 114lsa for some time but have been thinking about upgrading to something a little bigger. So I got pretty excited and installed this cam over the weekend. Car started right up but did not hear the big cam lope that goes with a cam this size. Anyway take the car out to see how it feels.....down low feels about the same the tr224, but up top above 4500rpm, just didn't seem to pull much better than stock cammed car. This is all s.o.p, but it makes me wonder if the stamping is incorrect? Mostly curious as I will probably swap back the tr224 this week and go back to what I know. Might even look to find a tr230 instead. Anyone have any ideas what cam this might be??
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2010 | 11:11 PM
  #2  
orangeapeel's Avatar
ЯєŧąяĐ Єl¡m¡иąŧøя ™
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 16,083
Likes: 4
From: Justin, TX
Default

Got any pictures? Sounds like a reground stock cam so far.
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2010 | 11:57 PM
  #3  
trans_am7935's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,453
Likes: 3
From: Glen Burnie, MD
Default

sounds like u should have done your reseach before putting some random cam in...that sucks though
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 12:02 AM
  #4  
orangeapeel's Avatar
ЯєŧąяĐ Єl¡m¡иąŧøя ™
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 16,083
Likes: 4
From: Justin, TX
Default

Just from looking at a cam you would never know what degree of advance is ground into it or if it is gonna be a valve bending machine. You could always spend the 25$+shipping and get it cam doctored and find out for sure what it is from a few sponsors here. Thunder I believe can do that for you.
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 08:45 AM
  #5  
Big Will's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 132
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Default

Not too bummed about it, getting pretty decent with cam swaps and can do one in about 5 hrs. Just need to decide if I should go with old faithful or try and get a tr230
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 01:50 PM
  #6  
Z284U2TRY's Avatar
TECH Resident
20 Year Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 885
Likes: 0
From: around
Default

the x1 is a 228-232 split old mti grind. It should pull hard up top. For some reason i thought mtil actually put the grind on the end of the cam or maybe that was thunder.
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 06:52 PM
  #7  
JaSSon's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,437
Likes: 0
From: Bridge City, TX
Default

X1 is 230/227 .590/575 112 or 114.
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 07:03 PM
  #8  
Big Will's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 132
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Default

The marking is stamped not etched on the cam......will snap a pic, just because when I pull it
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Apr 13, 2010 | 03:10 AM
  #9  
orangeapeel's Avatar
ЯєŧąяĐ Єl¡m¡иąŧøя ™
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 16,083
Likes: 4
From: Justin, TX
Default

If it says 1X then I would go with my above thinking it was a reground cam. Most of the time and I think MTI did it, they are etched in by hand. All my cams have been atleast. I guess we can determine after the picture shows up.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2010 | 11:33 AM
  #10  
Big Will's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 132
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Default

Here is the pic of the cam....taken with iphone. The numbers 7812 4 08 7235 X1. Put the old tr224 114lsa and instantly more lope then this X1.

Reply
Old Apr 19, 2010 | 02:28 AM
  #11  
orangeapeel's Avatar
ЯєŧąяĐ Єl¡m¡иąŧøя ™
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 16,083
Likes: 4
From: Justin, TX
Default

Then that wasnt the MTI X1 that you pulled out. They both have -2° of overlap unless you had a 112 cut on the X1 which would give it 4°. My vote stands as a reground stock cam. That is why it sucked and also why it didn't lope.
Reply
Old Apr 19, 2010 | 03:01 AM
  #12  
TXZ28LS1's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,163
Likes: 3
From: Classified
Default

you can definitely notice lope with the MTI X1.
Reply
Old Apr 19, 2010 | 01:38 PM
  #13  
5.3LJimmy's Avatar
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,279
Likes: 1
From: Napoleonville, LA
Default

Stock 98 camaro/firebird camshaft part number: 12557812 specs: 198/209dur .500/.500lift-119.5LSA. You swapped your TR224 for a stock 98 cam and are surprised that it lost top end and doesn't lope? I've got about 10 stock cams laying around my shop if you need some more cam swap practice.
Reply
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 03:01 AM
  #14  
orangeapeel's Avatar
ЯєŧąяĐ Єl¡m¡иąŧøя ™
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 16,083
Likes: 4
From: Justin, TX
Default

Originally Posted by 5.3LJimmy
Stock 98 camaro/firebird camshaft part number: 12557812 specs: 198/209dur .500/.500lift-119.5LSA. You swapped your TR224 for a stock 98 cam and are surprised that it lost top end and doesn't lope? I've got about 10 stock cams laying around my shop if you need some more cam swap practice.
I friggin' knew that was a stock cam! Atleast it was the bigger of the old LS1's.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:55 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE