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Old May 9, 2010 | 08:43 PM
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Just installed my MS3 and prc duals today, removed egr/air, put on the ls6 intake...

got her fired up everything seems fine, good oil pressure from the melling 296 etc..

But my check engine light is blinking?

I'm assuming this is normal since it is UNTUNED correct ?
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Old May 9, 2010 | 09:06 PM
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if you hooked everything back up correctly then yes you just ned a tune.
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the SES light only blinks for one thing, misfire.

check all your plug wires.
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Old May 9, 2010 | 09:12 PM
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flashing ses is not normal. check plugs, wires, coil connections, injector connectors, etc
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more than likely, its a bad connection on a plug wire....the only reason a SES will flash is for a misfire.
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Ok guys,

checked the wires and connections on the coils and the injectors, everything seems in place?

The weird thing is, the SES light will blink and then stay steady for about 5 miles then blink, steady etc...

wth ?
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it will go out once you get your tune
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flashing ses is not normal. check plugs, wires, coil connections, injector connectors, etc
I know it's not normal but what about after a cam install?

Couldn't find a bad connection
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Old May 9, 2010 | 10:22 PM
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As mentioned, double check all your wires, plugs, and coils
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needs to be tuned mine missfired untill it was tuned
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needs to be tuned mine missfired untill it was tuned
did you change the knock sensors? or un plug the harness from the sensors themselves? sometimes, the knock sensors, if bad will produce so much false knock it will set the SES light for a random multiple misfire, which is what a blinking SES light is. if its constant on one or more cylinders, it will just throw a solid SES, but if its on random cylinders at random times, it will blink.
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get a tune and then it'll go away. the same thing happened on my TR227/224 cam install and it's alot smaller of a cam than the MS3
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Originally Posted by bww3588
did you change the knock sensors? or un plug the harness from the sensors themselves? sometimes, the knock sensors, if bad will produce so much false knock it will set the SES light for a random multiple misfire, which is what a blinking SES light is. if its constant on one or more cylinders, it will just throw a solid SES, but if its on random cylinders at random times, it will blink.
No sir, didn't touch the knock sensors. Just a cam/intake install, untuned.

Do you think it has anything to do with the fact that I have Poly motor+trans mounts?
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get a tune and then it'll go away. the same thing happened on my TR227/224 cam install and it's alot smaller of a cam than the MS3
I hope so,

as of now it seems like your typical untuned big cam.

surges/bucks/ slobers etc..


doesn't seem to misfire if it's sitting there idling, but when I'm driving it will start blinking and then go away as strangely as it came.
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Originally Posted by Pro_built7
No sir, didn't touch the knock sensors. Just a cam/intake install, untuned.

Do you think it has anything to do with the fact that I have Poly motor+trans mounts?
i doubt it, but when knock sensors go bad, they tend to pick up and retard timing like a ****. the excessive loping of the cam can set them off and set a random multiple misfire blinking SES light.
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[QUOTE=bww3588;13307236]i doubt it, but when knock sensors go bad, they tend to pick up and retard timing like a ****. the excessive loping of the cam can set them off and set a random multiple misfire blinking SES light.[/Q

I want to put a sledge hammer threw the hood of this F$cking car.

Maybe I'll just take it to get it tuned and let them deal with it.

I'm going to get it scanned tomorrow and nail down if it's a "multiple misfire"
or misfire on a specific cylinder.
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Originally Posted by Pro_built7
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i doubt it, but when knock sensors go bad, they tend to pick up and retard timing like a ****. the excessive loping of the cam can set them off and set a random multiple misfire blinking SES light.
I want to put a sledge hammer threw the hood of this F$cking car.

Maybe I'll just take it to get it tuned and let them deal with it.

I'm going to get it scanned tomorrow and nail down if it's a "multiple misfire"
or misfire on a specific cylinder.
i know just how you feel man beleive me. my car has been down for 2 years and the year i did have it running after my H/C install i had nothing but problems. just hang in there, it will all come around. atleast your engine is in the state where its giving you issues, mine isint even built yet.
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Originally Posted by Pro_built7
I hope so,

as of now it seems like your typical untuned big cam.

surges/bucks/ slobers etc..


doesn't seem to misfire if it's sitting there idling, but when I'm driving it will start blinking and then go away as strangely as it came.
yep mine did the same thing. once you get a tune you'll be fine i suspect. mine hydrolocked when i drove into a puddle that was deeper than i thought and that was it for the engine, that happened back in january
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the dude is not listening to anyone here lol.. like 4 people said its the tune and he kept ignoring it.. ITS THE TUNE !!
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Old May 9, 2010 | 11:49 PM
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Its the tune like everyone ststaed. With the cam being aggressive the PCM thinks its random missfire and there for you get the blinking light and CEL.
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