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Old Aug 24, 2010 | 09:00 AM
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Someone locally is selling this cam and I am debating on trying to pick it up if i can get a good price on it but first I haven't really heard alot about this cam and can't really find much info on it other than it's 222/222 .588 .588 on a 112LSA.

Does anyone have any info on it and whether or not it's a good cam?
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It's an old school MTI cam. It's fairly decent and makes comparable #'s to the 224. Outdated technology, but still works good.
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so it's a proven cam...

now i have also heard good things about EPS cams though, how would it be in comparison to the EPS 222/226 or the 228R?

reason i ask this is because my birthday is coming up on sept 3rd and i was planning on just getting a tune on my car done but i happened to run across this C1 cam and wondered if it would be better to do the cam and then tune the car.
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Originally Posted by Damian
It's an old school MTI cam. It's fairly decent and makes comparable #'s to the 224. Outdated technology, but still works good.
Damien, what is your opinion on that cam for a l92/ls3 402 stroker combo with all the supporting mods? How much and rwhp and tq should be expected?
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Old Aug 24, 2010 | 04:43 PM
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Back in 99 a buddy of mine put down 405rwhp with mid length headers and MTI stage 1 heads. Its a great cam with even better sound!
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Old Aug 24, 2010 | 05:06 PM
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how much are you paying for the c1 cam? any cam you install to an ls1 engine it will gain hp and specially with a tune i say you will gain 40-50 also that will be a good starter cam!!
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Old Aug 24, 2010 | 05:41 PM
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I would have someone spec a cam for you or go with a new lobe design. Its alot of work to put one in and also alot of money once you get pushrods, springs, timing chain, oil pump. Mine as well not settle for any old cam. You could always go with the streetsweeper cam in my sig, probably a little big for ya though. It pulls like crazy.
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Old Aug 24, 2010 | 06:09 PM
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i personally wouldnt run a cam smaller than a 228 cam like the one from TSP.
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Old Aug 24, 2010 | 08:22 PM
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well the guys said $225 for the cam but to make an offer, basically he wants it out of his garage. if i don't go this route i would more than likely try the 228R or i've heard PatG can make cusctom cam specs with EPS and they lobes are easier on the valvetrain.
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I don't think a new cam will be that much more. I would always be a little scared putting a used part in my car. I would go with a newer cam and you will probably be happier and not always thinkin there is always something better out there
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I have the "C1 Hammer". 222/222 .566 .566 112 and love it. I just took it out the other day after 10 years for an update. It is very hard for me to get rid of it as I love the cam. If does not put up dyno numbers but it performs extremely well! Not to mention it sounds amazing!

Guys have ran into the 10s with heads and weight reduction back in the day.

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Old Aug 24, 2010 | 10:37 PM
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FYI - C2 cam was 224/244 581/581 112

Sorry had to go back 10 years.....man what memories on LS1tech
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I would say just get the 228R or get a custom spec'd cam from Pat G like you said. After everything is accounted for with a tune this is going to cost about $1200 so wouldn't you rather have an additional 10rwhp (give or take) over the C1 and get the 228R. It shouldn't trade up anything in the midrange and it still will have great drivability with a good tune.

Plus if you do heads down the road, the 228R will shine that much more.
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Originally Posted by 02_Z28_G
so it's a proven cam...
It was proven.......10 years ago. As I said before, it's a decent cam but very out dated lobe technology/engineering.

Originally Posted by 02_Z28_G
now i have also heard good things about EPS cams though, how would it be in comparison to the EPS 222/226 or the 228R?
It's not going to make as much power as an EPS or 228r cam, nor will it have the valvetrain stability of an EPS cam. The 228r is a 228/228 XE-R/XE-R cam. I believe the C1 cam is on an XE lobe.
Damian, what is your opinion on that cam for a l92/ls3 402 stroker combo with all the supporting mods? How much and rwhp and tq should be expected?
Way too many variables in that question sir. Gearing, chamber volume, intake choice, etc...all play a factor into cam selection. Holler at me and I'll help you with it.
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Originally Posted by 02_Z28_G
well the guys said $225 for the cam but to make an offer, basically he wants it out of his garage. if i don't go this route i would more than likely try the 228R or i've heard PatG can make cusctom cam specs with EPS and they lobes are easier on the valvetrain.
I thought you were getting the cam for 50 or 75!! I will not pay 225 or more then 100 for a c1 cam go with a custom PatG cam you will be a lot happier
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$225 is not a bad price. Offering somebody $50-75 for any aftermarket camshaft would be an insult IMO.
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Originally Posted by Damian
$225 is not a bad price. Offering somebody $50-75 for any aftermarket camshaft would be an insult IMO.
like you said "It was proven.......10 years ago. As I said before, it's a decent cam but very out dated lobe technology/engineering" would you pay that much money for that cam? if so i have some parts for sale!!
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 09camaro383
I thought you were getting the cam for 50 or 75!! I will not pay 225 or more then 100 for a c1 cam go with a custom PatG cam you will be a lot happier
well the guy basically said to make him and offer so i talked to him and told him $150, figured i would start there, so he said he would think about it and get back to me...so far i haven't heard anything. This just seemed like a good deal so i figured i would get some opinions on it as fast as i could so i wouldn't miss out, but it seems like with no answer i may be going a different route. From what it seems like cam package from texas speed or custom cam from PatG would be more beneficial in the long run.

thanks for all of the help guys
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Well looks like since I am going to go the different route I figure i'll go ahead and start buying part by part. Since i will more than likely have to get a new oil pump...can anyone tell me what the part number is to the ls6 oil pump?

was going to start a new thread but figured why not continue this one.
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