Good low and mid torque cam for LS1
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Good low and mid torque cam for LS1 Being still quite a newbie with LS engine I wanted to make this thread. I have read a tons of posts regarding choosing a cam. Most of them would point me to choosing a "big cam" to get power. I am sure that is true and there is nothing wrong with that. But I would like to have a different approach. I am looking for good low/mid range torque cam. I want to have good usable power under the curve. Talking about good torque from idle to 5500 rpm. I am not really interested peak at powers between 6000-6800. Sure I will rev past 6k rpm sometimes but I dont spend my time above 5500 too often. Maybe 1% of time.
I have stock -01 LS1 with OEM 241 heads. M6 tranny and rearend has 3,55 gears. Headers and ported TB are used. No emission stuff on my engine because it is a swap to -68 Camaro. Curb weight around 3300 lbs.
I have found few to consider.
226/226 .591 on a 112LSA
224/220, .581/.581 116+0
TR 224-112" - 224/224 .563/.563 112 LSA
TR 224-114" - 224/224 .563/.563 114 LSA
To make things even challenging there are 2 other major factors that narrow the choice.
1. I donīt want to have a "smelly" cam like GM ASA
- I am still in a process of understanding the overlap and LSA which I belive make a difference with the "smelly" factor. So no unburnt fuel on my headers, please.
2. Budget.
- I am on a tight one, so the first two cams are out (being custom grinds, I think)
Also I would prefer to keep the lift under .570/.570 if possible. Making life easier to valvetrain. I will anyhow upgrade to the yellow LS6 springs and while being there also the oilpump should be replaced.
Any ideas/suggestions?
I have stock -01 LS1 with OEM 241 heads. M6 tranny and rearend has 3,55 gears. Headers and ported TB are used. No emission stuff on my engine because it is a swap to -68 Camaro. Curb weight around 3300 lbs.
I have found few to consider.
226/226 .591 on a 112LSA
224/220, .581/.581 116+0
TR 224-112" - 224/224 .563/.563 112 LSA
TR 224-114" - 224/224 .563/.563 114 LSA
To make things even challenging there are 2 other major factors that narrow the choice.
1. I donīt want to have a "smelly" cam like GM ASA
- I am still in a process of understanding the overlap and LSA which I belive make a difference with the "smelly" factor. So no unburnt fuel on my headers, please.
2. Budget.
- I am on a tight one, so the first two cams are out (being custom grinds, I think)
Also I would prefer to keep the lift under .570/.570 if possible. Making life easier to valvetrain. I will anyhow upgrade to the yellow LS6 springs and while being there also the oilpump should be replaced.
Any ideas/suggestions?
Cam I'd do either of the TR224's or even a 224/228 duration. Keep the LSA at 114 for a better lower end.
Or, if you want to step it up a bit, check out this thread for a 228/232
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...424-396-a.html
Or, if you want to step it up a bit, check out this thread for a 228/232
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...424-396-a.html
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from what ive been told go your last choice there the TR 224-114" - 224/224 .563/.563 114 LSA. will give a more factory style idle with out the big lump and unburnt fuel of a 110/112 lsa cam.
put a double row timing chain in for extra security, sounds like a good cam.
put a double row timing chain in for extra security, sounds like a good cam.
A 224 cam on a 114 LSA is going to make peak power around 6100-6200 rpm. If you want to make peak power closer to 5500 rpm, look for a smaller cam with a narrower LSA. A 216-218 intake lobe and a 220-222 exhaust lobe on a 111-112LSA with 4 degrees of advance. It won't be smelly because the overlap will be way less than 0 degrees at .050". Use something like Comp XE high lift lobes to keep the lift around .560-.570".
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
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get better springs ,comp 918s or pac 1218.get a custom cam from Patrick G or try comp 54-455-11,it is a LSr truck cam 112 lsa ,107ICL ,lots of low rpm torque for towing .
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I'd do either of the TR224's or even a 224/228 duration. Keep the LSA at 114 for a better lower end.
Or, if you want to step it up a bit, check out this thread for a 228/232
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...424-396-a.html
Or, if you want to step it up a bit, check out this thread for a 228/232
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...424-396-a.html
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Either one of these should work good for you.
Comp Cams LS1 Camshaft - 218 / 224 .527 / .534 114 LSA
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...oducts_id=1447
Comp Cams LS1 Camshaft - 220/224 duration with .530/.534 lift and 112 LS
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...roducts_id=155
Comp Cams LS1 Camshaft - 218 / 224 .527 / .534 114 LSA
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...oducts_id=1447
Comp Cams LS1 Camshaft - 220/224 duration with .530/.534 lift and 112 LS
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...roducts_id=155
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Thanks to everybody for your replies. Money wisely I really would prefer of the shelve cam and quite a few choices seems to be available.
Some of them have been around already a while (necessary not a bad thing at all).
Some of them have been around already a while (necessary not a bad thing at all).
Money wise shelves vs Custom grind is maybe $50-75. They are just as many if not more choices available for a custom grind then off the shelves...that's the beauty of it, you can pick and customize what you want. No brainer IMO.
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Something like this cam is pretty popular over here its pretty much a sleeper cam but seems to make good numbers
220/220 .581/.581 with your choice of 112,114,116 lsa
Its an off the shelf grind from Texas speed.
220/220 .581/.581 with your choice of 112,114,116 lsa
Its an off the shelf grind from Texas speed.
