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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 03:56 PM
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Only thing I would buy from Ford is a powerstroke or a 03/04 Cobra. Maybe, just maybe even a lincoln towncar. I have GM running through my blood though. BTW, the new camaro is a POS.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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spawnedx, sorry for the ricer comment, but you are on LS1tech know your **** or you sound just as bad, i don't go on nissan forums and talk about ka24's, sr20's, kouki's, or zenki's, but if i did, i would expect to get my head bitten off by the members their for my ignorance and for owning a camaro.
All in all, anything can be fast, and everything has potential, but don't throw the best pitch you've got and expect to win, because i'm sure we can find just as many muscle cars in the 6's.
But i am an LT guy on LS1tech, and i know better than to start the LT vs. Ls argument, i will lose(and for good reason lets be honest) and you should realize the same thing.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Tolley's94z28
spawnedx, sorry for the ricer comment, but you are on LS1tech know your **** or you sound just as bad, i don't go on nissan forums and talk about ka24's, sr20's, kouki's, or zenki's, but if i did, i would expect to get my head bitten off by the members their for my ignorance and for owning a camaro.
All in all, anything can be fast, and everything has potential, but don't throw the best pitch you've got and expect to win, because i'm sure we can find just as many muscle cars in the 6's.
But i am an LT guy on LS1tech, and i know better than to start the LT vs. Ls argument, i will lose(and for good reason lets be honest) and you should realize the same thing.
I know my ****. Calling a 5.7L motor a 350 is done by many, many, many people including GM guys themselves. In fact if I recall an LS1 is actually 345ish CID.

But you said it yourself, I am on LS1TECH and not LS2TECH, so my post reflects the forum I am on. You really are grasping at straws to try and say I don't know anything based on 14 CID. Tell me did you know that Mitsubishi's 6G72 is a 3.0L engine and the 6G73 is a 2.5L engine? Where as the 4G63 is a 2.0 and the 4G64 is a 2.4L? There is no rhyme or reason to the engine codes, and I wouldn't expect you too know that off the top of your head, nor would I assume you don't know your "****."

Regardless of which, what does me not knowing that an LS2 is 364 CID have to do with me knowing that a 122 CID is running high 12's, low 13's?

I'll accept the apology, but please, if you are going to assume I don't know my ****, do so from a better reason than not knowing the exact differences from LS1 to LS2.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Tolley's94z28
spawnedx, sorry for the ricer comment, but you are on LS1tech know your **** or you sound just as bad, i don't go on nissan forums and talk about ka24's, sr20's, kouki's, or zenki's, but if i did, i would expect to get my head bitten off by the members their for my ignorance and for owning a camaro.
All in all, anything can be fast, and everything has potential, but don't throw the best pitch you've got and expect to win, because i'm sure we can find just as many muscle cars in the 6's.
But i am an LT guy on LS1tech, and i know better than to start the LT vs. Ls argument, i will lose(and for good reason lets be honest) and you should realize the same thing.

Your **** is slow..Wanna fight about it.

Jk Jk. I just didn't know this thread was still going. And WAY off topic.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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Your **** is slow..Wanna fight about it.

Jk Jk. I just didn't know this thread was still going. And WAY off topic.
Really?
I thought it was on topic.
So what was the original topic I guess we all forgot what it is.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 06:29 PM
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wow this thread went downhill fast...
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TrippyJoey
Really?
I thought it was on topic.
So what was the original topic I guess we all forgot what it is.
See post #1
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SpawnedX

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkGMEyIu_hw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWoAx...eature=related

Back to DSMTuners.com, I prefer the GM guys on that site anyhow, they are open minded.
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Andy Jensen went 6.02 @ 230 mph at maple grove a few months back when Pinks All Out was there. 427 small block V8 with one turbo
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 608kZ28
blah!
Andy Jensen went 6.02 @ 230 mph at maple grove a few months back when Pinks All Out was there. 427 small block V8 with one turbo
And I'm sure he actually sounded good doing it too, which is important to me. I think the auditory experience is half the fun of racing.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SpawnedX
I know my ****. Calling a 5.7L motor a 350 is done by many, many, many people including GM guys themselves. In fact if I recall an LS1 is actually 345ish CID.

But you said it yourself, I am on LS1TECH and not LS2TECH, so my post reflects the forum I am on. You really are grasping at straws to try and say I don't know anything based on 14 CID. Tell me did you know that Mitsubishi's 6G72 is a 3.0L engine and the 6G73 is a 2.5L engine? Where as the 4G63 is a 2.0 and the 4G64 is a 2.4L? There is no rhyme or reason to the engine codes, and I wouldn't expect you too know that off the top of your head, nor would I assume you don't know your "****."

Regardless of which, what does me not knowing that an LS2 is 364 CID have to do with me knowing that a 122 CID is running high 12's, low 13's?

I'll accept the apology, but please, if you are going to assume I don't know my ****, do so from a better reason than not knowing the exact differences from LS1 to LS2.
Please take your stupid *** to your own forum!
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 09:44 PM
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Wow is all I can say.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Arc00TA
I love this argument, then the 4cyl guy inevitably drags up the best example he can find and says "HA I GOT YOU V8 GUYS YOU SUCK". FWIW GM wanted us to call the LS1 a 350 which it clearly is not. So what if he called it a 350. Maybe he doesn't know the exact size?

Nobody gives a **** that a 122cid ran 13s stock. Just the same way nobody cares if a 346 or 364 or 427 cid engine ran 13s stock. You pick a platform because you like the car, and its right for you. Don't bring up these .01% guys that can afford to throw tens of thousands of dollars at a fiberglass body race car like thats a prime example of 4cyl power, because we all know any car in the 6's it barely a trace of what it was originally.

In the end, no matter if you like a KA24, B18, LS1, 2JZ or whatever, making it go faster or look better is what this hobby is all about, and platform is just personal preference. Stick with what you like and talk **** on the morons (every kind of car has morons).
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 608kZ28
blah!
Andy Jensen went 6.02 @ 230 mph at maple grove a few months back when Pinks All Out was there. 427 small block V8 with one turbo
Brent Rau did that on one turbo with an engine that is roughly 3.5 times smaller than a 427.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 11:23 PM
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Honestly, I can't believe some of you are using the hp/liter arguement. Thats ******* RICER math. Pure and simple. That sounds like some idiot would pull up next to me at a light in a Civic hatch and ask how much power I'm making, then pull the hp/liter argument out and say there **** is faster cause of the hp/liter ratio or some retarded **** like that.
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by thecobrahunter
Please take your stupid *** to your own forum!
Please try to formulate a useful response, instead of one that screams "I really have no clue what I am talking about so I will just call someone stupid to feel better when I rub one out alone on the toilet tonight."
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 12:19 AM
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Honestly, I can't believe some of you are using the hp/liter arguement. Thats ******* RICER math. Pure and simple. That sounds like some idiot would pull up next to me at a light in a Civic hatch and ask how much power I'm making, then pull the hp/liter argument out and say there **** is faster cause of the hp/liter ratio or some retarded **** like that.
No one has been using hp/liter math, in fact, both sides of any argument have stated that it's a useless point to make.
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 02:36 AM
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Maybe the hp/liter was a little "off" or ricer as you wish to call it, but power to weight ratio is unarguable.
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 03:11 AM
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man has tech became an angry place to argue about things that get us nowhere in life... lol
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 06:37 AM
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maybe the OP worked at a nissian dealership.
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JustAnotherLS2
FWIW, 2001 Acura(Honda) Integra Type R has a B18 (B18C5 for you ********) that produces 200 hp at the crank. 100 hp per liter. That would be equivalent to an LS1 producing over 500 from the factory.
Just sayin'.
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No one has been using hp/liter math, in fact, both sides of any argument have stated that it's a useless point to make.
Really? Nobody used ricer math?
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