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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
Could you define "no" P to V clearance?

The TFS heads have about .050" more P to V than a stock GM head with the same 2.04" valves, so that's a pretty good amount of clearance in my book.

I know lots of guys who have run upper 230's at .050" cams with 59-60 cc TFS heads without issues.

You should not have a problem with any cam you choose.
Oh really?
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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talk to Geoff at EPS cams,see what he recommends..maybe look at the 236/248 cam .
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Originally Posted by WS6RED2002TA
I have a DD TFS setup. I have had this setup for almost two years. As far as street racing goes, I walked my buddies Patriot Performance LS6 stage II with 226/226 cam (roll race). I ran a GTR on the highway from a 75-135 won by a car length. My setup is in the sig.
sweet man.. thats what im saying... i tried searching some races seeing people with TFS heads and i honestly could not find anything surprisingly..
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 08:09 AM
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sweet man.. thats what im saying... i tried searching some races seeing people with TFS heads and i honestly could not find anything surprisingly..
well i get the heads yesterday now i need to decide on which rocker arms i need to go with and the pushrod length. and of corse what cam
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 11:30 AM
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alright jason from texas speed said that trickflow heads are not ment to go over a 600 lift?
is this true?
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Ws6kid.
alright jason from texas speed said that trickflow heads are not ment to go over a 600 lift?
is this true?
Thats incorrect & I doubt he said that.
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 06:37 AM
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trick flow under rates the springs on their heads.the springs will handle more lift.vengeance racing and EPS sells trick flow heads,they have a good idea of what cam works best .
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 07:33 AM
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The 0.600 lift rating is that listed for the Trick Flow 215s from some suppliers, Summit Racing for example. That rating is presumably related to the spings included, not the cylinder heads. Total Enigne Airflow, for example, lists fully assembled 215s with a 0.650 lift.

(I got my 215s from TEA and had them assembled to my specifications, which is the advantage of buying from a head assembler as opposed to a warehouse supplier.)
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
Could you define "no" P to V clearance?

The TFS heads have about .050" more P to V than a stock GM head with the same 2.04" valves, so that's a pretty good amount of clearance in my book.

I know lots of guys who have run upper 230's at .050" cams with 59-60 cc TFS heads without issues.

You should not have a problem with any cam you choose.
Good info.
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Ws6kid.
well i get the heads yesterday now i need to decide on which rocker arms i need to go with and the pushrod length. and of corse what cam
I am going to go with the 1.7 yella terra rockers on mine.as cast 220 trick flow heads.7.50 pushrods came with my heads.I was told the 7.50 work in most of the trick flow installs.Still need to measure to make sure.
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 09:24 AM
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I'm running trick flow's 220 as cast that came in a kit from Vengeance Racing. The cam is a comp cam ( 236/238 w 601/605 lift) & yella tella rockers. Also installed a Fast 92, 92 throttle body and under-drive pulley. Running Kooks LTs through GMMG's pipes,no cats. Laid down 466 hp at the back tires. Had to limit rpms because of stock bottom end. The engine had plenty left at 5500. I couldn't get it hooked up at 1/8 track here in town. Ran in the low 8's with 7.896, 95.25 mph best. If I could drive I know the car would do better. I built the car to road race and it's a beast on the road course. My car is a 6 speed car. Hope this helps.
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 09:46 AM
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Not trying to thread hijack, but anyone running the AFR 205's? I am myself looking at buying heads for the first time... Noney is kinda an object but I rather save n get what's best then settle for something I don't really want...
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 03:40 PM
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Not trying to thread hijack, but anyone running the AFR 205's? I am myself looking at buying heads for the first time... Noney is kinda an object but I rather save n get what's best then settle for something I don't really want...
I dont think AFR makes the 205 anymore because Tony Mamo @ AFR made a whole new head i believe they are 215 as well.
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sabersaw30
I am going to go with the 1.7 yella terra rockers on mine.as cast 220 trick flow heads.7.50 pushrods came with my heads.I was told the 7.50 work in most of the trick flow installs.Still need to measure to make sure.
Adj. or non Adj. rockers?
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JoshuaCole67
Not trying to thread hijack, but anyone running the AFR 205's? I am myself looking at buying heads for the first time... Noney is kinda an object but I rather save n get what's best then settle for something I don't really want...
ive heard trickflows flow better then the afr 205's
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 08:14 PM
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get the non-adjustables rockers,the new afr are 210cc .
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by garygnu
get the non-adjustables rockers,the new afr are 210cc .
Any difference from non and adj?
as in power or disadvantages
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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Just get non- adj. and set preload with PR length...
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Ws6kid.
well i get the heads yesterday now i need to decide on which rocker arms i need to go with and the pushrod length. and of corse what cam
Did you make up your mind on what rockers your going to use? Some swear by the comp trunion upgrade with 7.625 rods and .090 shims and others say yella terra. I personally have the shims,11/32 x 7.625 pushrods and a set of upgraded stock rockers in my basement. Im not sure which way i will go when i install them but i will keep this bookmarked for more opinions.
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ct06gto
Did you make up your mind on what rockers your going to use? Some swear by the comp trunion upgrade with 7.625 rods and .090 shims and others say yella terra. I personally have the shims,11/32 x 7.625 pushrods and a set of upgraded stock rockers in my basement. Im not sure which way i will go when i install them but i will keep this bookmarked for more opinions.
asking around for almost a week im going with yella terra ultra lights non adj.
With a 7.50 or 7.45 rod length.
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