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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 09:10 AM
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Easily doable....if you dont think so you must have been living under a rock for the past 10 years. intake and full exhaust...easily put down 400whp. Video does not look like nitrous...lol.

And an M6 is an internet acronym for "manual 6 speed" nothing to do with no RPO codes or anything... so if you say you have a m12 you sound like a fool, no one refers to stuff as rpo codes. Because there are only M6, A3, and A4
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by kinglt-1
I agree with vetteboy... Don't get me wrong c5 z06's are fast cars but this guy is hiding some ****. Looks to me like its on the jug the way it hits so hard from a roll. He absolutely yanks the evo on the hit and that should not happen(if it's truly exhaust/intake only)!!
Exactly what I said, he ate that evo, ad it sounds like it has a pretty big turbo.

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Easily doable....if you dont think so you must have been living under a rock for the past 10 years. intake and full exhaust...easily put down 400whp. Video does not look like nitrous...lol.

And an M6 is an internet acronym for "manual 6 speed" nothing to do with no RPO codes or anything... so if you say you have a m12 you sound like a fool, no one refers to stuff as rpo codes. Because there are only M6, A3, and A4
Easily doable? Don't take me wrong, but you must be living under a rock. Lol. I've owned atleast 3 or 4 z06's each with intake and exhaust and None of them made 400rwhp. Each made around 370.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 10:59 AM
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Dyno numbers don't mean **** !

A full bolt on + tune C5Z can run 11's at over 120 mph. That is why he is winning races.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by need4z
Lots of C5 Z06's can dyno 390 rwhp with just long tubes, an intake and tune.
My 03 z06 made a tiny bit over 400rwhp uncorrected with LTs, CAI + very safe tune. (low AFR and low timing) I'd call it ~390ish corrected.

It may be possible but I would suspect the dyno he used is a very happy one.
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Originally Posted by vetteboy99
Exactly what I said, he ate that evo, ad it sounds like it has a pretty big turbo.



Easily doable? Don't take me wrong, but you must be living under a rock. Lol. I've owned atleast 3 or 4 z06's each with intake and exhaust and None of them made 400rwhp. Each made around 370.
So you installed headers/exhaust, intake manifold, and tuned it and only got 370whp in a manual trans car?

Ive seen Fbodys with just headers tuned putting down 370whp. With the LS6 heads, LS6 cam, it would easy. Learn to tune it then.


Dyno results are meaningless anyway... the track will tell you what it has.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ysb02
My 03 z06 made a tiny bit over 400rwhp uncorrected with LTs, CAI + very safe tune. (low AFR and low timing) I'd call it ~390ish corrected.

It may be possible but I would suspect the dyno he used is a very happy one.
agreed-- I vote generous dyno.

I had my car dyno tuned at 393 whp on a dynapack at Synergy Motorsports. Almighty Rick (of Synergy) and a shop tech from Pacific Fab both agreed that I'd make 400 - 410 easily on other dynos.
Hot Rod magazine recently had an article on the reliability and consistency of dynos... long story short, they're neither unless you get someone who really knows what they're doing, which is apparently hard to find, even for Hot Rod magazine.
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Originally Posted by 68Hybrid
agreed-- I vote generous dyno.

I had my car dyno tuned at 393 whp on a dynapack at Synergy Motorsports. Almighty Rick (of Synergy) and a shop tech from Pacific Fab both agreed that I'd make 400 - 410 easily on other dynos.
Hot Rod magazine recently had an article on the reliability and consistency of dynos... long story short, they're neither unless you get someone who really knows what they're doing, which is apparently hard to find, even for Hot Rod magazine.
How do you calibrate a dyno? If you are getting different results from different dynos then they are pretty much worthless as far as peak results. It sounds like a ficticious random number. This is why they are just for reference only... the actual weight and MPH will be more accurate.
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Originally Posted by pwrtrip75
So you installed headers/exhaust, intake manifold, and tuned it and only got 370whp in a manual trans car?

Ive seen Fbodys with just headers tuned putting down 370whp. With the LS6 heads, LS6 cam, it would easy. Learn to tune it then.


Dyno results are meaningless anyway... the track will tell you what it has.


no, intake as in CAI. But those are on a mustang dyno, I will get my underdrive pulley in and tune it with someone that lives two hours away and we'll see how much it will pull. I really want to run this at the track but the track here closed down
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by pwrtrip75

Ive seen Fbodys with just headers tuned putting down 370whp.

are you on drugs?

Generous dyno I suppose.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by vetteboy99
This guy on another forum is predicting that his 03 Z06 has only intake, full exhaust, and a tune and is making 400rwhp. Is that possible?! He's been posting up video's of him beating some other 2.3 Cobra's, vipers, newer body style vettes with Same mods and he has been Smoking all of them. He also kept up with a 00 Camaro with LS6 H/C/I. I think that he has alot more mods than listed.
Well well well......

Where to start?

How unpolite is it to have this party and no invite?

You are such a rookie tool. You need to educate yourself before you continue to make yourself look like a fool. At least get the basics right.

-I dont have and 03
-I havent "predicted" that my car makes around 400rwhp, its dyno proven..

-I havent been "smoking them all", I win some and loose some...

You must be a high school punk or one of those mommy and daddy boys that just forks out money to "make my ride fast man.."




Originally Posted by intenseblue
sounds like spray or ported heads and a small stealthy cam
No spray or ported heads....

Originally Posted by ls1leadfoot
hmmmm.....
sounds scandalous to me, but a tune can make or break your set up...never know
that is correct sir, its all in the tune...

Originally Posted by baalic
I can believe 400 on a bolt on tuned z06... Now I dunno about beating a viper with those mods unless he has a killer driver mod but who knows..
Well the race with the viper was very even and we both are pretty decent drivers...

Originally Posted by vetteboy99
So it's possible? I'm going to dynotune mine right now! Well after I get the Under drive pulley in
You just keep showing how ignorant you are....

Originally Posted by vetteboy99
Idk, he has a healthy block tho. But I really can't see how you can make 400rwhp on just exhaust and intake. The people he raced all had HORRIBLE driver mods. Thats probably why.


Originally Posted by baalic
They are rated at 405 flywheel... A few fbodies running cams similar to the ls6 cam on crappy 241 heads are getting close to that 400hp mark with exhaust and tune... So I can see 400 hp on a zo6 with the 243's... Full exhaust, tune, intake, etc especially if he has all the little things that goes with it..
Amen...



Originally Posted by brnmuenchow
A good tune will get you an est. extra 50 h.p., most full exhaust systems i.e. full tube headers, no cats may give you 20-30 h.p. extra. I suppose it could be possible, even with just a CAI system as his intake gives mabye another 10-20 h.p. all that just added up to an est. 60-80 h.p. over bone stock. Otherwise, he is either spraying or he does have some mild cam work with it.
A good tune will not get you "an extra 50 hp" on a car unless the car is majorly modded...

Originally Posted by intenseblue
No tune on an all motor bolt-on car is gonna be worth fifty horsepower
You are virtually right...

Originally Posted by need4z
Hey vetteboy. Your Z06 has a MN12 not an M6!
Thanks for schooling this tool for me, one less thing Ill have to correct him on..

Originally Posted by vetteboy99
The guy beat a 02 z06 with a cam by a car length, he has to be running nitrous
No NO2, learn to accept it guy.....


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I dont buy it, not for a second. There are a group of people who prefer to race, and then lie about what they have under the hood, its not the term sleeper, that refers to an element of surprise. I am talking about the folks who flat out LIE. If you ever watched the original PINKS on tv youseen this type of person regularly, lying and then takin folks cars, that is why they changed the format of the show. Lying and cheatinf go hand in hand. And anyone who tells you that they are gonna get another 50HP out of just a tune on a stock vette,,,,I aint buyin that .
There are such types of people but im not one of them..... I just race for fun... and have plenty of people to back me up as i almost always make friends with the people I race..

Originally Posted by need4z
Lots of C5 Z06's can dyno 390 rwhp with just long tubes, an intake and tune.
+1

Originally Posted by kinglt-1
I agree with vetteboy... Don't get me wrong c5 z06's are fast cars but this guy is hiding some ****. Looks to me like its on the jug the way it hits so hard from a roll. He absolutely yanks the evo on the hit and that should not happen(if it's truly exhaust/intake only)!!
you are wrong also.... no jug.....

Originally Posted by pwrtrip75
Easily doable....if you dont think so you must have been living under a rock for the past 10 years. intake and full exhaust...easily put down 400whp. Video does not look like nitrous...lol.
You make too much sense....

Originally Posted by brians91formula
Dyno numbers don't mean **** !

A full bolt on + tune C5Z can run 11's at over 120 mph. That is why he is winning races.
Truer words have never been spoken... Dyno numbers are just a good tunning tool, period.

Originally Posted by pwrtrip75
So you installed headers/exhaust, intake manifold, and tuned it and only got 370whp in a manual trans car?

Ive seen Fbodys with just headers tuned putting down 370whp. With the LS6 heads, LS6 cam, it would easy. Learn to tune it then.


Dyno results are meaningless anyway... the track will tell you what it has.
You are completely correct sir. I think that the kid got jealous that his set up is not putting up the numbers and now calls bullshit on anything that seems to be out doing his car...

Originally Posted by vetteboy99
no, intake as in CAI. But those are on a mustang dyno, I will get my underdrive pulley in and tune it with someone that lives two hours away and we'll see how much it will pull. I really want to run this at the track but the track here closed down
Listen guy, if you dont know what you are talking about or arent sure, dont go around calling bullshit on people and throwing tantrums over it. Quite frankly it looks pathetic....

Close your mouth and do a lot of reading and then, when you have grown hair on your nuts, you might have something useful to contribute..

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Oh, and almost forgot....

Here is my intro with all the info....

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Originally Posted by ZYBORG
Listen guy, if you dont know what you are talking about or arent sure, dont go around calling bullshit on people and throwing tantrums over it. Quite frankly it looks pathetic....

Close your mouth and do a lot of reading and then, when you have grown hair on your nuts, you might have something useful to contribute..
O hey, I didn't call any bullshit, I just wanted to know if it was possible which mostly everybody say it's over a good tune. Now you must have some pretty good tuners down there, But like I said earlier, I have to drive 2 hours to get one. I didn't trash talk you either, I said I would have called it bullshit If you beat a Newer modded Z06. I knew enough to be able to open a thread with a forum filled with car enthusiasts, So I did it, and nothing you could do about it. I don't see how asking a question makes me look like a fool.

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Originally Posted by vetteboy99
O hey, I didn't call any bullshit, I just wanted to know if it was possible which mostly everybody say it's over a good tune. Now you must have some pretty good tuners down there, But like I said earlier, I have to drive 2 hours to get one. I didn't trash talk you either, I said I would have called it bullshit If you beat a Newer modded Z06. I knew enough to be able to open a thread with a forum filled with car enthusiasts, So I did it, and nothing you could do about it. I don't see how asking a question makes me look like a fool.
Its the way you went about it man, its all about the approach.... You could have Pmed me asking for details and specifics and I would have been glad to break it down and pass along all the knowledge and tools that I have aquired to ensure my car runs the way is supposed to. Too many people out there running around with bad set ups....

Instead you came out calling bullshit, with a hollier than thou attitude and "well if my car didnt make that power, you must be lying about yours..." statements trying to put in question my credibility.....

Like I said, do a lot of research before you open your mouth as to not look like a dumb noob...
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Its the way you went about it man, its all about the approach.... You could have Pmed me asking for details and specifics and I would have been glad to break it down and pass along all the knowledge and tools that I have aquired to ensure my car runs the way is supposed to. Too many people out there running around with bad set ups....

Instead you came out calling bullshit, with a hollier than thou attitude and "well if my car didnt make that power, you must be lying about yours..." statements trying to put in question my credibility.....

Like I said, do a lot of research before you open your mouth as to not look like a dumb noob...
Well what went on in that thread was going to be the same thing in PM's. I don't believe stuff unless I know it's possible or alot of people say it is ( Not just 1 Person). I mean, I am a pretty nice guy, and I Never knew that you can make that much HP out of intake and exhaust, and If I did, I would of never said anything and kept my mouth shut. I didn't tune or dyno the one I have now, but it is the fastest Z06 I've owned, and the other one's I owned all made around 370rwhp. Who know's, the Z06 I have now might pull 400RWHP to after I tune it with this guy I just found out about.
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Originally Posted by vetteboy99
Well what went on in that thread was going to be the same thing in PM's. I don't believe stuff unless I know it's possible or alot of people say it is ( Not just 1 Person). I mean, I am a pretty nice guy, and I Never knew that you can make that much HP out of intake and exhaust, and If I did, I would of never said anything and kept my mouth shut. I didn't tune or dyno the one I have now, but it is the fastest Z06 I've owned, and the other one's I owned all made around 370rwhp. Who know's, the Z06 I have now might pull 400RWHP to after I tune it with this guy I just found out about.
Hate to tell you, but just because everyone says "it isnt so" it doesnt mean that its not possible. Taking that kind of attitude is not a "can do" man attitude. There are always pioneers that make thigs that were impossible before possible today...

If the tunner you take your car is any good, he will take his time with your car in the dyno.... a perfect tune takes time/hours....

There are many ways to disguise a tune as a good tune....

Id suggest not being cheap and forking out the extra cash for a very well known and respected tunner.....
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Originally Posted by ZYBORG
Hate to tell you, but just because everyone says "it isnt so" it doesnt mean that its not possible. Taking that kind of attitude is not a "can do" man attitude. There are always pioneers that make thigs that were impossible before possible today...

If the tunner you take your car is any good, he will take his time with your car in the dyno.... a perfect tune takes time/hours....

There are many ways to disguise a tune as a good tune....

Id suggest not being cheap and forking out the extra cash for a very well known and respected tunner.....
Yea I see what your saying, but this tuner is pretty damn good, He tuned Cammed, H/C, Turbo'd, and all kinds of LS Motors and each one of those guy say he's the best. I am not "cheap" if you think I am.... I actually have the cash to do it now, Just don't have the time. I hope I can make it out this weekend.
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my buddies 03 made 360 with intake, exhaust and tune. (LS6) made 420 after a 230 cam
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Just a few quick observations.

Dyno racing sucks.
There are some damn quick bolt on LS6s.
Improbable does not equal impossible.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...s6-engine.html
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 06:31 PM
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He may be running 4:10 gears too

Also he may have dropped some weight & Ported the heads & intake
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