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Old 03-25-2011, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
I've had a set on my SC LS2 for 25+kmiles on XER lobes with no issues. Tested pressures 3 weeks ago and all are within tolerances. They will be staying in this year.
That is good to here. Hopefully there are a few others that will share some long term usage. It just helps to confirm how good they are on the LSx motors. Although, I have not seen one report of them failing on one of our motors and I have done a fair amount of searching. Has anyone heard of a failure on one of our (LSx) motors??
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I've got a set of the 1518's with a little over 5000 miles on em. Mostly street but a few blasts to 6400 rpm's.

No issues at all.
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I talked to PAC today. They did have an issue but suppose to been resolved. They were suppose to be cracking on start up
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Did they mention if it was any LSx motors??
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No but talked to a vendor that had issues with them but PAC was suppose to be taken care of it. I want some but might hold of for a month or get some psi springs
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I just wonder if everyone is checking for coil bind and install height like they are supose too that are breaking these springs. Or are they running to close to coil bind? I am getting ready to build a 383 LT1 for a freind and we are going to use the comp behives in it.
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Originally Posted by theevette
No but talked to a vendor that had issues with them but PAC was suppose to be taken care of it. I want some but might hold of for a month or get some psi springs
I thought about the PSI's too but did not like the significant increase in pressure. At .625 they are almost 45 lbs more than the PAC's, if I remember correctly. Granted, it would be a no brainer if the PAC's had failure problems on the LSx motors. I have read a couple reports of guys using heavier springs (usually duals) and having the revs come up 500 or so rpms shorter than when they changed to a lighter spring, so it does eat up some HP...how much is the ??. I would think that we would have heard of any LSx PACs breaking with them being so common on here.
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Originally Posted by 96lt4c4
I just wonder if everyone is checking for coil bind and install height like they are supose too that are breaking these springs. Or are they running to close to coil bind? I am getting ready to build a 383 LT1 for a freind and we are going to use the comp behives in it.
I have read of more Comp failures than PAC...even with the new revised Comp springs.
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Something happened to the last two months of production. Those were the ones recalled the one before that are ok. If you got some in the last couple months you better call pac.
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PSI maxlife beehives have a media surface enhancement that smooths the
wire to reduce imperfections which could cause cracks and it helps the oil
drain off faster removing heat to extend spring life. These were designed
originally for ls stockcar racing (ASA) used by Lingenfelter and Wegner Racing
when they had the GM account. I've heard they last forever even w/today's
more aggressive lobe profiles. FWIW @370 lbs open .625 lift...if your cam has
.610 theoretical lift....factoring in deflection....a dial indicator would show the
retainer is only moving .590 and springs usually lose some pressure after a few
heat cycles so you'ld end up @ around 320-325 open pressure.
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Originally Posted by usmonaro
Not to rain on the parade here but Matt@ texasspeed, do you guys cover these if they break or PAC? I know comp backed there stuff when they had problems. I just put a set of these on because they were recommended to me by you guys.
While any warranty on springs is ultimately handled by the manufacturer, Texas Speed will gladly go to bat for any of our customers that has any issues with springs or other parts in an effort to make sure the customer is taken care of and happy in the end!
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I've got about 8k miles on my 1518s, I'd recommend em
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PAC's phone number is 866-799-9417, I purchased a set two months ago, havent fired up engine yet but called PAC my batch was cleared but the Tech did say they had two batchs that went out that are in question so if you purchased 1518's since Dec give them a ring/CYA.
To the OP THANKS for the heads up!!!!!!!.........Paul
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Okay if I call them how do I tell them what batch I have? I ordered my set about 3-4 weeks ago.
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Through tsp
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The batch info is on the box.
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Originally Posted by Matt@Texas-Speed
The batch info is on the box.
Matt, is TSP as a Company able to get a list of any batch numbers that maybe an issue?
We can '& i have' individually done a check with PAC but we won't get all the info someone like TSP would be privy too.

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And if I No longer have the
Box? LoL
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Originally Posted by ls1 1990 VN
Matt, is TSP as a Company able to get a list of any batch numbers that me be an issue?
We can '& i have' individually do a check but we won't get all the info someone like TSP would be privy too.
I will see what I can do
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Originally Posted by Matt@Texas-Speed
I will see what I can do
Thanks Matt. I have a set I received from TSP a month or two ago. They're still in the box... but about to go on. *Were* about to go in.


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