Which cam for a daily driven '04 Z06?
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Staging Lane
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Which cam for a daily driven '04 Z06? Hi every, my first post here hopefully of many to come.
I recently bought a 2004 Z06 with 20k miles at a pretty good price. I've got quite a few parts waiting for an install, but I'm waiting to purchase a cam to go ahead with all the installation and dyno tune.
Mods are: Kooks 1-7/8" long tubes, catted x pipe, Borla XR1 catback, Vararam intake/power tube.
I've been looking at a few cams from texas speed but I'm not quite sure what to go with for a daily driver/cruising car. I've been looking at the 224R and 228R cams, but have a few questions. I was wanted to go with 114 LSA just to keep a little more smoothness to the idle.
Is the 228 going to be too much for a daily driver? I'm not looking to go too extreme on the cam, but would like to see 430-440 at the wheels with the mods listed above and a good dyno tune. Also, how much lift should I go for on the valve springs with either cam?
Thanks in advance guys! Great community you have here!
I recently bought a 2004 Z06 with 20k miles at a pretty good price. I've got quite a few parts waiting for an install, but I'm waiting to purchase a cam to go ahead with all the installation and dyno tune.
Mods are: Kooks 1-7/8" long tubes, catted x pipe, Borla XR1 catback, Vararam intake/power tube.
I've been looking at a few cams from texas speed but I'm not quite sure what to go with for a daily driver/cruising car. I've been looking at the 224R and 228R cams, but have a few questions. I was wanted to go with 114 LSA just to keep a little more smoothness to the idle.
Is the 228 going to be too much for a daily driver? I'm not looking to go too extreme on the cam, but would like to see 430-440 at the wheels with the mods listed above and a good dyno tune. Also, how much lift should I go for on the valve springs with either cam?
Thanks in advance guys! Great community you have here!
Launching!
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It'll be easy in your car. Your problem will be finding a good tuner for the drive by wire. My best friend is currently having a problem with that on his 03 Z06.
A 228 would probably be nice, you will probably want a lower lsa because you'll shift your torque and powerband lower. I have a 112 lsa and its not too extreme at idle just noticeable.
I think you'll want a bigger cam. I got a torquer v.2 which will probably respond a lot better When I get more supporting mods but I'm kinda kickin myself for not going slightly larger. Also don't rule out a custom cam. A nice grind can make awesome power and driveability.
A 228 would probably be nice, you will probably want a lower lsa because you'll shift your torque and powerband lower. I have a 112 lsa and its not too extreme at idle just noticeable.
I think you'll want a bigger cam. I got a torquer v.2 which will probably respond a lot better When I get more supporting mods but I'm kinda kickin myself for not going slightly larger. Also don't rule out a custom cam. A nice grind can make awesome power and driveability.
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Staging Lane
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It'll be easy in your car. Your problem will be finding a good tuner for the drive by wire. My best friend is currently having a problem with that on his 03 Z06.
A 228 would probably be nice, you will probably want a lower lsa because you'll shift your torque and powerband lower. I have a 112 lsa and its not too extreme at idle just noticeable.
I think you'll want a bigger cam. I got a torquer v.2 which will probably respond a lot better When I get more supporting mods but I'm kinda kickin myself for not going slightly larger. Also don't rule out a custom cam. A nice grind can make awesome power and driveability.
A 228 would probably be nice, you will probably want a lower lsa because you'll shift your torque and powerband lower. I have a 112 lsa and its not too extreme at idle just noticeable.
I think you'll want a bigger cam. I got a torquer v.2 which will probably respond a lot better When I get more supporting mods but I'm kinda kickin myself for not going slightly larger. Also don't rule out a custom cam. A nice grind can make awesome power and driveability.
Do you know what kind of gains one could expect with a 228R at 112LSA?
you wont make 430-440 cam only unless you go with a large cam like the ms3. A zo6 with my same exact cam, long tubes, u/d pulley and vararam made 422rwhp same day as mine was dynoed and trapped 122mph the first time out. I would do a 228 as a minimum and i think youll prolly wish you went in the 230 range after not too long.
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you wont make 430-440 cam only unless you go with a large cam like the ms3. A zo6 with my same exact cam, long tubes, u/d pulley and vararam made 422rwhp same day as mine was dynoed and trapped 122mph the first time out. I would do a 228 as a minimum and i think youll prolly wish you went in the 230 range after not too long.
How does the Torquer v.2 perform as far as driveability? It doesnt seem too much bigger than the 228R.
usmonaro: what LSA did you go with on your v.2?
Launching!
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Actually depending on what u do that is about peak probably for the 228 with all supporting mods. 420-430rwhp. A lot easier achieved with a little bigger cam. My torquer v.2 would peak a little more than that. My friends Z06 has patroit stage 2 243's , headers, catback, fast 102mm, 90mm electronic throttle body, bbk cold air & torquer v.3. Made 464rwhp & 436rwtq. I think his tune is off but I'd tell you right now I'd hate to drive that thing everyday lol. BTW watch out cause damn vettes have the WORST exhaust drone ever lol.
112 lsa on my v.2 and I love it so far, just need a little better tune on my car and some more mods. I made 386rwhp and 374rwtq on STOCK MANIFOLDS & EXHAUST lol.
112 lsa on my v.2 and I love it so far, just need a little better tune on my car and some more mods. I made 386rwhp and 374rwtq on STOCK MANIFOLDS & EXHAUST lol.
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I had the street sweeper ht in my z06. Made 415 400. I loved it. Rpm Motorsports did my tune and it was dead on. The torque curve was flat and it sounded great. It drove so well my mother drove it once in a while. I ran prc springs. If I did it again, Id order another one. Predator z specd it for me
Definitely go bigger than a 228. Nothing wrong with that cam for sure. But you will probably be surprised how well that thing will drive. I would atleast do something like the TSP Torquer 2 232/234. That is a good size for a daily driver.
I wish i would have stepped up to a larger cam like a 233/239. My old MTI X1 drives so damn smooth.
I wish i would have stepped up to a larger cam like a 233/239. My old MTI X1 drives so damn smooth.
I have the Texas Speed 228R @ 112 LSA in my 02 Z06 and it is not a daily driver. I don't think that I would want more cam than that if I was driving it to work everyday. I really like the 228R, it makes great power but for me that would be my limit on a daily driver.
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I have the Texas Speed 228R @ 112 LSA in my 02 Z06 and it is not a daily driver. I don't think that I would want more cam than that if I was driving it to work everyday. I really like the 228R, it makes great power but for me that would be my limit on a daily driver.
Are .600" springs going to be good enough on a cam with .585" lift? I know it falls within specs, but is it pushing it too close to its limits?
.600 springs will be fine. i had a buddy with a torquer v2 and while it was a great cam it really liked to be up in the rpm range. some people's idea of a daily driver cam is different than other however. i agree with Paul 75 i wouldnt go any bigger than the 228r for a daily unless you went with a reverse split cam.
Reverse splits have been proven to make great power and have awsome power under the curve with great torque while maintaining great driveability. to me thats what a daily driver cam is all about
check out the Tr230 cam, tons of info on here about it.
also the Mti X1 cam that TXZ28 was talking about has good reviews too. just something to think about.
Reverse splits have been proven to make great power and have awsome power under the curve with great torque while maintaining great driveability. to me thats what a daily driver cam is all about
check out the Tr230 cam, tons of info on here about it.
also the Mti X1 cam that TXZ28 was talking about has good reviews too. just something to think about.
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Staging Lane
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.600 springs will be fine. i had a buddy with a torquer v2 and while it was a great cam it really liked to be up in the rpm range. some people's idea of a daily driver cam is different than other however. i agree with Paul 75 i wouldnt go any bigger than the 228r for a daily unless you went with a reverse split cam.
Reverse splits have been proven to make great power and have awsome power under the curve with great torque while maintaining great driveability. to me thats what a daily driver cam is all about
check out the Tr230 cam, tons of info on here about it.
also the Mti X1 cam that TXZ28 was talking about has good reviews too. just something to think about.
Reverse splits have been proven to make great power and have awsome power under the curve with great torque while maintaining great driveability. to me thats what a daily driver cam is all about
check out the Tr230 cam, tons of info on here about it.
also the Mti X1 cam that TXZ28 was talking about has good reviews too. just something to think about.
that should be all you need with such low mileage. cam, springs, pushrods, and all the gaskets and crank pulley bolt and of course some kind of tune. i would definetely go with a 112lsa to bring the powerband down a little bit. the lope isnt that bad and sounds badass too.
I have a Triumph TR6 with an ls1 in it. I'm running PRC stage 2.5 heads cnc ported 62cc from TSP. I'm running a 228r 112 lsa cam with fast 90 intake ported from Tony Mamo + 90 throtle body from Nick williams. Have Hooker headers 1 5/8 primary to 2.5 exhaust. Didn't want to spin high rpm's so went with 112 lsa. With a 2500lbs car it works out great. Lot's of low end torque and big fun.
Running stock idle at 800rpm and she lopes pretty good.Also running Borla pro xs muffler to keep it quiet as possible for droan with an x pipe. Soon will install monza tips with glass to quiet some more.
All in all like the 228r 112 lsa works very well in my TR6 for sure. I worked with Matt great guy to work with at TSP.
Don't know on your engine, but may want to install comp cams trunion upgrade, to keep rocker arm needle bearings from falling out with higher lift cam. I did the upgrade for peace of mind.
Good luck!
Running stock idle at 800rpm and she lopes pretty good.Also running Borla pro xs muffler to keep it quiet as possible for droan with an x pipe. Soon will install monza tips with glass to quiet some more.
All in all like the 228r 112 lsa works very well in my TR6 for sure. I worked with Matt great guy to work with at TSP.
Don't know on your engine, but may want to install comp cams trunion upgrade, to keep rocker arm needle bearings from falling out with higher lift cam. I did the upgrade for peace of mind.
Good luck!
Call up TSP, they can do a custom grind for the same price as a shelf grind, They also offer XFI and LSL Lobes, but these are higher lift lobes than the XER lobes.
If you just want minimum Valve train noise/wear but great power then contact Geoff at EPS and have him spec you cam.
If you do go the custom grind route, make sure you tell them truthfully what you want/don't want from a new cam.
If you just want minimum Valve train noise/wear but great power then contact Geoff at EPS and have him spec you cam.
If you do go the custom grind route, make sure you tell them truthfully what you want/don't want from a new cam.