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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 08:38 AM
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hey guys have a 2000 ls1 goin into a 69 camaro an i am putting the t-rex cam with harden push rods an big springs it calls for an 42 lbs injects. the help i need is would the stock lifters be ok r should i upgrade them were the motor is apart now i was goin to replace but dont know if i would keep stock are upgrade on them i looked at some but dont know which ones could u all give me some insite on some an what would u all do thanks.
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 08:46 AM
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What size pushrods? I'd upgrade so you don't have to tear it down if the stockers fail.. I had LS7 lifters which are beefier (cup is .060" higher though). Those I was not impressed with. I am putting my engine back together in the next few days with Comp Cams Pro Magnums lifters. Don't forget to give them a long oil bath prior to install!
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 08:50 AM
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LS-7 lifters will be your least expensive option. Decent lifter for the price. I went with the Morel Link-Bar lifter for peice of mind. Comp makes a decent lifter as well as Lunati. Really depends on how high you plan to Rev the motor and how much $ you want to spend. You will get many opinions about this question.... Good luck with your choice.
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 08:50 AM
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I'm running comp cams lifters in mine.
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 09:14 AM
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the push rods are Thunder Racing Heat Treated Chrome-Moly Pushrods, 7.400" (Stock length LS1) i dont think i can go to a tall lifter well the t-rex cam pushs the max on the valve train they aint a hair inbetween stuff after the cam is installed.

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What size pushrods? I'd upgrade so you don't have to tear it down if the stockers fail.. I had LS7 lifters which are beefier (cup is .060" higher though). Those I was not impressed with. I am putting my engine back together in the next few days with Comp Cams Pro Magnums lifters. Don't forget to give them a long oil bath prior to install!
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 09:20 AM
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ill rev to 6-6500 i say but never over 7 i think my buddy shifts at 6750 in his 2000 ls1 race car on the track i am building it off what parts he ordered but i dont know was lifters he use an his over sea now. i dont want to spend alot but dont want to lose a motor lol
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LS-7 lifters will be your least expensive option. Decent lifter for the price. I went with the Morel Link-Bar lifter for peice of mind. Comp makes a decent lifter as well as Lunati. Really depends on how high you plan to Rev the motor and how much $ you want to spend. You will get many opinions about this question.... Good luck with your choice.
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i know where you can get a deal on a new set of Morel lifters.
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If you do the LS7 lifters, thats the cheapest and slightly taller which means less valvetrain noise with the 7.4" pushrods. I say that because I've heard TR recommends that size, but ppl complain of all the noise and switch to a 7.425".
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by sujomatt
What size pushrods? I'd upgrade so you don't have to tear it down if the stockers fail.. I had LS7 lifters which are beefier (cup is .060" higher though). Those I was not impressed with. I am putting my engine back together in the next few days with Comp Cams Pro Magnums lifters. Don't forget to give them a long oil bath prior to install!
the top of the lifter cup is .060" closer to the top of the lifter, but the overall lifter is shorter so the top of yhe lifter cup to the bottom of the roller are the same on both ls2 and ls7 lifters
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 09:40 AM
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o ya let me guess texas speed lol how much bud an shore there work with my app?

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Originally Posted by 69blackwhss
ill rev to 6-6500 i say but never over 7 i think my buddy shifts at 6750 in his 2000 ls1 race car on the track i am building it off what parts he ordered but i dont know was lifters he use an his over sea now. i dont want to spend alot but dont want to lose a motor lol
I would say you would be just fine with the LS-7 lifters... I rev mine to 7000-7200 so I wanted some insurance.. You can get these for about 125.00 which is the least expensive option.
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 09:49 AM
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u have the trex cam? an is that the lifters u went with an does the cam still pull at 7200?
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I would say you would be just fine with the LS-7 lifters... I rev mine to 7000-7200 so I wanted some insurance.. You can get these for about 125.00 which is the least expensive option.
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 09:56 AM
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the top of the lifter cup is .060" closer to the top of the lifter, but the overall lifter is shorter so the top of yhe lifter cup to the bottom of the roller are the same on both ls2 and ls7 lifters
OHHH ok - so its overall the same size as an LS1 but beefed up, right? That makes more sense, being that my 7.425" pushrods with the LS7 was still a bit noisy.

Op, seems you can't go wrong with the LS7s. I was merely giving a friendly heads up it may be a bit noisy with that size rods but you'll be good to go!
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 09:59 AM
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we both learned something new today
now i need to find them for the cheapest price

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OHHH ok - so its overall the same size as an LS1 but beefed up, right? That makes more sense, being that my 7.425" pushrods with the LS7 was still a bit noisy.

Op, seems you can't go wrong with the LS7s. I was merely giving a friendly heads up it may be a bit noisy with that size rods but you'll be good to go!
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 10:32 AM
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Yup, there was a thread on here a few weeks ago, where a guy (sorry, can't remember who) actually measured the two to compare the differences.

The ls7 lifter has the body going all the way around the roller where the ls1 lifter just has two tabs at the bottom of it holding the lifter in....that is the biggest difference I saw when holding the two up side by side

Ls7 on the left, ls1 on the right
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 02:59 PM
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thanks for the pic brother i just need to find them online cheap now lol thanks for all ur help guys
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Originally Posted by 69blackwhss
u have the trex cam? an is that the lifters u went with an does the cam still pull at 7200?
No, I am running a Cam that my buddy speced out.. Roughly 236-242, With a low 600 lift.. This is on a 402 iron block.
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 06:36 AM
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sounds like a good size cam
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 69blackwhss
sounds like a good size cam
Once you get over 400ci you'd be amazed at how the extra cubes eat up the larger duration and really tame a bigger can down...
My 255/266 in my 408 acts like a 230/230 in a 346ci
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I have some never used morel's (hyd. link bar) lifters for $360 if anyone is interested. New they're $570! Need em gone ASAP.
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