how I honed my block, w/ pics
08-06-2011, 09:37 PM
#44
RonJon,
It appears you merely want a "pat on the back" and a few " atta boys" But don't get offended or pissy if people who know better give you constructive criticism.
If your buget ring job works off, hats off to you.
It appears you merely want a "pat on the back" and a few " atta boys" But don't get offended or pissy if people who know better give you constructive criticism.
If your buget ring job works off, hats off to you.
08-06-2011, 09:47 PM
#45
ron jon
wow dude. Awesome job! When you are done, how much do you want to build me a RHS 427. I don't mind paying extra for quality workmanship. LOL
wow dude. Awesome job! When you are done, how much do you want to build me a RHS 427. I don't mind paying extra for quality workmanship. LOL
08-06-2011, 10:05 PM
#46
I love the DIY ,but maybe talk to alot of experinced peeps on this site.I feel you needed more lube for the honing.have you measured the bore size after honing?if you can go with a finer hone to fit a piston consider it.you can find many more short blocks for practise,thats what hot rodding is all about .do and learn.great luck.
08-07-2011, 11:29 PM
#47
DIY stuff is cool AND the importance of ring seal cannot be overlooked !!!!!
Just know that "old school 350" rings are 5/64" thick and the oil rings are
standard tension...about as similar to an ls1 as Sandra Bernhard is to Jenna
Jamison....JK....I freshen at least a dozen circle track engines per year and
trust me these guys are CHEAP. I start w/stone hone as you did only w/30wt
oil and finish hone w/ 280 or 400 ball hone to knock down the sharp edges.
If you don't have one you can even wrap a red scotchbrite pad around your
stone hone and use oil. Dexron is for cleaning AND assembly because of its
natural cleaning properties. Another great tip is to use TotalSeal Quickseat
powder. Wipe it in the cleaned bores prior to assembly and literally watch the
rings seat during assembly. Nice stuff...about $17 bucks does several engines.
The people on here just don't want to see you put something together that
looks decent but WILL fail at sealing low tension 1.5mm moly rings. Finish IS
everything. FWIW I once had a homebuilt 502 BBC oval port flat tappet hyd.
engine and the shop I worked at insisted I bring it in and PUT it on the dyno.
I thought great I wonder how much power will it make ???? Stupid me...all
they did was LOAD(bog) the engine continuously rev it between 1500-4000
rpms then pull it off and say there ya go. Of course it was free but only
several years later did I understand the significance of this procedure....
It works the engine and puts a load on the rings..seating them harder against
the walls....Long story short this engine has always run stooopid #s in several
configurations over a span of ten years. Consider this EX..Drag racing engines
take 20hp to turn an air(evac.)pump yet it returns 25-30 horse on the dyno
by way of less ring flutter...HOLY ****....good luck to you sir !!!
Just know that "old school 350" rings are 5/64" thick and the oil rings are
standard tension...about as similar to an ls1 as Sandra Bernhard is to Jenna
Jamison....JK....I freshen at least a dozen circle track engines per year and
trust me these guys are CHEAP. I start w/stone hone as you did only w/30wt
oil and finish hone w/ 280 or 400 ball hone to knock down the sharp edges.
If you don't have one you can even wrap a red scotchbrite pad around your
stone hone and use oil. Dexron is for cleaning AND assembly because of its
natural cleaning properties. Another great tip is to use TotalSeal Quickseat
powder. Wipe it in the cleaned bores prior to assembly and literally watch the
rings seat during assembly. Nice stuff...about $17 bucks does several engines.
The people on here just don't want to see you put something together that
looks decent but WILL fail at sealing low tension 1.5mm moly rings. Finish IS
everything. FWIW I once had a homebuilt 502 BBC oval port flat tappet hyd.
engine and the shop I worked at insisted I bring it in and PUT it on the dyno.
I thought great I wonder how much power will it make ???? Stupid me...all
they did was LOAD(bog) the engine continuously rev it between 1500-4000
rpms then pull it off and say there ya go. Of course it was free but only
several years later did I understand the significance of this procedure....
It works the engine and puts a load on the rings..seating them harder against
the walls....Long story short this engine has always run stooopid #s in several
configurations over a span of ten years. Consider this EX..Drag racing engines
take 20hp to turn an air(evac.)pump yet it returns 25-30 horse on the dyno
by way of less ring flutter...HOLY ****....good luck to you sir !!!
08-08-2011, 01:13 AM
#48
im a young 18 year old that is making a bone stock bottom end with 193k on it live to the tune of over 400rwhp in my daily and i wouldnt run that and im the king of cheap. i replaced headgaskets in my car and the cylinders were so worn out you could rock the pistons back and forth in the cylinder and the top had a ridge you could rip your fingernail off on. i saw that and said **** it and a year later i still drive it everyday makin 400+ through an auto like that.
i have however personally witnessed an sbf get honed with your method and with the results you pictured and currently that car runs like complete *** and burns more oil than gas.
what im getting at is with the motor out of the car and ready to go like you had it why would you take a crapshoot on something im assuming wasnt something you knew very much about (mainly because of the atf vs mineral spirits discussion) when it could have been done professionally and gave you a little bit more piece of mind with spending a tad more money.
i have however personally witnessed an sbf get honed with your method and with the results you pictured and currently that car runs like complete *** and burns more oil than gas.
what im getting at is with the motor out of the car and ready to go like you had it why would you take a crapshoot on something im assuming wasnt something you knew very much about (mainly because of the atf vs mineral spirits discussion) when it could have been done professionally and gave you a little bit more piece of mind with spending a tad more money.
