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Old Aug 10, 2011 | 01:05 PM
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Why should I upgrade to LS7 lifters in my car? Just ordered cam, springs, pushrods, timing chain and under drive pulleys. Havent't ordered headers yet, trying to decide which brand to get.
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Old Aug 10, 2011 | 01:22 PM
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It's not an upgrade over your stock lifters. The only advantage they have over buying standard lifters from GM is that they are packaged as a set of 16 for A LOT less money than buying singles.
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Old Aug 10, 2011 | 01:25 PM
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Ok, thanks. Wasn't sure. I see people saying they got them and was wondering if they were better than stock.
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They are the same, for all practical purposes, as your stock lifters. These engines are starting to get higher mileage on average, so people are replacing lifters more frequently now.
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Old Aug 10, 2011 | 02:18 PM
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and there the only oe lifter you can get for an ls1 from GM......
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So to replace a stock lifter in a stock LS1 motor, the LS7 lifters will work fine?
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Old Aug 11, 2011 | 03:29 AM
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So to replace a stock lifter in a stock LS1 motor, the LS7 lifters will work fine?
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They work on a variety of gm motors including LS and LT motors...yes, they will work fine.
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Old Aug 11, 2011 | 03:27 PM
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And if I decide to replace my lifter guides at the same time, do I order LS1 guides or LS7 guides?
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LS7's are the new LS1 lifter. Only difference it bowl size so you may need a touch shorter pushrods, but you need to check. Just wondering are you doing just a cam install? If so, why replace lifters if you don't have to pull the heads..
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Old Aug 11, 2011 | 04:47 PM
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No, I'm not doing a cam install. I'm trying to track down a nasty noise, and I seem to have it narrowed down to lifters. I didn't mean to hijack the thread, but I figured I jump into an existing discussion rather than start a new one just to clarify one thing.

I'm keeping everything stock, so I was just trying to confirm that I was on the right track. Sounds like the LS7 lifters are the stock replacement, but I may need pushrods (depending) and I'd like to replace the guides as well.

But would I order LS1 guides or LS7 guides?

Thanks all.
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I believe by "guides" you mean lifter trays, your stock trays will do fine, unless they are damaged (which is unlikely )
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I'd replace the stock trays with LS2 trays while you're there. The new style trays feel noticeably stronger/stiffer, and are cheap insurance against lifters turning!

http://www.texas-speed.com/p-222-gm-...ter-trays.aspx
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Great, thanks guys.

So LS1 motor with LS2 trays, LS7 lifters, and pushrods sized as required.

I knew it would be a simple answer.
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The overall height on a ls7 lifter from the roller to the bottom of the cup is the same height as an ls1 height. When you put them side by side they appear to be a different height because of the cups and the bodies of each lifter but this has already been a busted myth....they are the same overall height and use the same lifter length for a stock setup.
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Old Aug 11, 2011 | 11:55 PM
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I thought the reverse was true: they appear identical length when placed side-by-side, but in reality the cup position is different. So in effect they appear same length, but behave as if different in length.

But this is why I like to ask. Just because something is said often doesn't make it true.

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IIRC (which Im almost positive I do) you use the same pushrods. They are a direct factory replacement and just a "revamp" over the LS1 style lifter...they are the new factory replacement.

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Originally Posted by remauto1187
The overall height on a ls7 lifter from the roller to the bottom of the cup is the same height as an ls1 height. When you put them side by side they appear to be a different height because of the cups and the bodies of each lifter but this has already been a busted myth....they are the same overall height and use the same lifter length for a stock setup.
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I thought the reverse was true: they appear identical length when placed side-by-side, but in reality the cup position is different. So in effect they appear same length, but behave is if different in length.

But this is why I like to ask. Just because something is said often doesn't make it true.
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IIRC (which Im almost positive I do) you use the same pushrods. They are a direct factory replacement and just a "revamp" over the LS1 style lifter...they are the new factory replacement.

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We just had a lengthy discussion of this subject. The only thing that was established with absolute certainty is that you should check/measure the pushrod length anytime you change components.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...1-lifters.html
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And these are the threads that I recently read through that led me to believe there is a slight difference between LS1 and LS7 lifters:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...er-length.html

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...-question.html

But the one question that remains unanswered for me is: Even if the difference is small, it could obviously affect the proper functioning of the motor--Why would GM offer this as a direct replacement without comment or mention of the need to check the preload?
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