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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 04:41 PM
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ok i just installed my new cam into the block and secured my new cam retainer plate to the block (new countersunk plate and bolts= 12ft/lbs of torque). now my question is how much is the cam supposed to move backward into the block when i push it in and pull it out? seems like it moves alot, is that normal? also when i secure the cam gear (timing set gear) to the cam, step back and look at it, it seems like the cam gear sits farther back into the block than the crank gear does. not much maybe just a tinny tinny bit. is that normal? when i turn the motor over by hand all looks good, turns nice and easy and doesn't slack the chain.... just seems like to me the cam gear and crank gear would be in perfect alignment but maybe the cam moves a bit for clearance????
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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 05:11 PM
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ok so i just read on comp cams website... its says that it is not necessary to check cam end play on any cam that is used with a cam retainer plate... is this correct

http://www.compcams.com/Technical/In.../Files/145.pdf

last sentence on page #2
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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 06:49 PM
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Seems to me that you would want to check endplay anyways. If you didn't have any clearance, the cam would grind into the retainer plate and not only put a lot of debris in the oil, but cause a lot of power loss to friction. I'm sure the Torrington bearing in aftermarket timing sets wouldn't last long like that either.

I always check, and on LS1's I usually see .005-.010", which is fine.
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Seems to me that you would want to check endplay anyways. If you didn't have any clearance, the cam would grind into the retainer plate and not only put a lot of debris in the oil, but cause a lot of power loss to friction. I'm sure the Torrington bearing in aftermarket timing sets wouldn't last long like that either.

I always check, and on LS1's I usually see .005-.010", which is fine.
to check endplay do i put the timing set on torque it to spec then put a dial indicator on the cam gear (machined surface on the front of the cam gear right below the teeth) and then rotate the gear 360* checking for deflection???
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You'd put the indicator on the cam/cam gear and push/pull the cam back and forth.
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thanks guys, looks like i have .007" of camshaft end play
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All the cams I have done have been loose. Makes you think they are too loose but it seems to be the nature of the design. At .007 you should be good.
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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 11:33 PM
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Coming from the Gen.1 scene, .005-.010 is ideal. At .007 your literally talking about 2 hairs. Nothing to worry about
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