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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 01:37 PM
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Okay guys I have the heads install on my car now and I got to send back some defective spring's. The only thing is they need the old spring's before they will send me new one's. Is there anyway to hold the valves up without having to remove the heads from the car? I will need all the springs out and something to hold all the valves up.
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 01:44 PM
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you can put some rope into the cylinders, thick enough to coil to hold the valve.
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 01:50 PM
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I just have tape on my valve stems to keep them from going anywhere.
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 01:50 PM
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or maybe you could try using a zip tie or something on each valve so it won't fall down?
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 01:53 PM
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I have done both of these! best way would be the tape... due the fact that if the piston is down thats alot of rope
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 02:12 PM
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compressed air is the most common, I simply roll over the engine until the piston of the cylinder im working on is at TDC
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 02:16 PM
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small rubber band on the valve stem
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 02:23 PM
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Usually the valve won't fall past the seal unless you push it. If you've taken the seals off, I would use small zip ties around the keeper grooves.

Or are you talking about holding the valves up while you take the springs off?

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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 02:32 PM
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use compressed air to hold the valves closed, remove springs, put a paper clip on the retaining groove... it wont go anywhere and it will allow movement if you need to...
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 05:15 PM
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Thanks guys you gave me some good ideas I'll try it and let you know how it goes.
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 06:33 PM
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He's talking about holding all 16 valves up without springs at the same time. If he used air, he'd need 8 air fittings and have to supply air to all 8 cylinders for days ... LOL.

Anyway ... something around the top groove of the valve to prevent it from falling past the guide will work well IMO. Just make sure the piston is on TDC when you remove and then reinstall the new springs.
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you use air on the cylinder you are working on... then secure the valves.. repeat x7
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 01:15 PM
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As long as the seals are there and no lubricant on the valves it self, tape (masking, painters), or Zip ties.

Or remove head. I know its extreme but something you can consider if needed or worried.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ANTICOP RAM AIR
you use air on the cylinder you are working on... then secure the valves.. repeat x7
You don't really need the air ... just make sure the piston is at TDC on the cylinder you're working on.
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Old Oct 22, 2011 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ANTICOP RAM AIR
you use air on the cylinder you are working on... then secure the valves.. repeat x7
Hes working on multiple cylinders though. hes installed and found some to be defective so is sending them back to be replaced. Air wont work here.

Alot of the guys around here use zipties for prolonged periods of time
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Monte LS....1
Hes working on multiple cylinders though. hes installed and found some to be defective so is sending them back to be replaced. Air wont work here.

Alot of the guys around here use zipties for prolonged periods of time
He's saying to use air on the cylinder that's being worked on. Remove valve spring. Then secure and remove air and move on to the next spring etc...
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