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Old 08-23-2019, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by omc8
What kind of numbers did you have on a stock 862 untouched ....... 222 cfm ? Is that right !.
Yes that's right 220 to 223 cfm , I have never seen 224.
If you flow all 8 ports your going to have some differences. And just investigate as to why and try some things

All you need is the larger 2.0 valve and the correct valve job and blend the seat. Use a 40 top cut on vj


I know where the next spot is to really wake these up. But I have a 862 head here I am going to try a few more vj on. I have a few ideas I still want to try

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Originally Posted by Lsbmer

All you need is the larger 2.0 valve and the correct valve job and blend the seat. Use a 40 top cut on vj

So leave the seat along and just have it cut to a 2.0? Hmmm I might have to see if I can do that myself
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Originally Posted by Ls7colorado
So leave the seat along and just have it cut to a 2.0? Hmmm I might have to see if I can do that myself
Yeah it's that simple. The seat insert is the same size as the other cathedral port heads.
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Originally Posted by Lsbmer
Yes that's right 220 to 223 cfm , I have never seen 224.
If you flow all 8 ports your going to have some differences. And just investigate as to why and try some things

All you need is the larger 2.0 valve and the correct valve job and blend the seat. Use a 40 top cut on vj


I know where the next spot is to really wake these up. But I have a 862 head here I am going to try a few more vj on. I have a few ideas I still want to try
40* top cut interesting , so I'm guessing a 40 50 60 . If you don't mind could you tell us the angles . And did you use the same angles on 1.89 valve
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2.0 valve is still a 45 main angle

Yes the 1.89 valve is a 50 main angle as was the valve for that seat
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Now this is getting over my head......
so is there a tool I can buy to do this?
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Originally Posted by Ls7colorado
Now this is getting over my head......
so is there a tool I can buy to do this?
Yes there are many companies that sell stones or cutters to do this type of work. I would recommend Neway seat cutters https://www.newaymfg.com/cutters Their cutters do the more common angles such as 15 30 45 . Don't believe they a 50* cutter this more of a competition Valve seat angle .You can get most of all tools to do a 3 angle vj for less $250
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Probabaly be best to just run them lol I’m pretty sure I will mess something up then be out the money anyways

or find out if it’s possible to just swap the entire valve seat from the 243 heads onto the 862
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Originally Posted by Ls7colorado
Probabaly be best to just run them lol I’m pretty sure I will mess something up then be out the money anyways

or find out if it’s possible to just swap the entire valve seat from the 243 heads onto the 862
I have a 0.020" milled hand ported pair of 862s with 2.00" intake valves that were done by Lloyed Elliot on a LQ4. Makes far more power than the 317s ever thought about. They flow similarly to unported, stock rectangle port head but have much higher velocity.
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NICE! That’s what I’m looking for but on my shoe string budget!
anyone got a valve seat cutter tool a guy can borrow? Lol
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Originally Posted by Ls7colorado
NICE! That’s what I’m looking for but on my shoe string budget!
anyone got a valve seat cutter tool a guy can borrow? Lol
I know its not bottom dollar but Lloyd took a $50 pair of junkyard 862 heads, cleaned, milled, ported, did the performance valve job, supplied the 2.00" valves, new valve seals and the BTR dual spring/retainer kit all for $830. They came back ready to bolt on to an engine and run.
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WOW that is defiantly a smoking deal!
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I just showed the 50 so you can see what it does.i wouldn't call a 15 and 30 angles normal anymore. Its 2019. Not 1990. Peak torque will come when the intake valve is closing at the right time.
Below that there will be reversion
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Originally Posted by Lsbmer
I just showed the 50 so you can see what it does.i wouldn't call a 15 and 30 angles normal anymore. Its 2019. Not 1990. Peak torque will come when the intake valve is closing at the right time.
Below that there will be reversion
The guy with the 30/45/60 cutter surely doesn't want to step up his program
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I’ll just say this, the stock 5.3 heads that Bo White did for me years ago flowed extremely well. The combo in my signature I drove for 80k miles before selling and the person who bought it told me when he got it tuned it made over 400rwhp. For a cam that small and worked over stock castings they did not disappoint for the money I had invested which was about $600. Never regretted my choice on a stock bottom end LS1. Had I changed short blocks I’d have had reason to invest more.
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Originally Posted by RedVertTA
Title says it. I've read some posts that say yes and some that say no so I haven't been able to find a clear answer. If the answer is yes, what kind of work would be involved in making it happen? Thanks.
stock they came with 1.890 and 1.550 intake and exhaust. You have to cut the seat to 2in do a bowl cut and set up venturi blend the vlave job put a short turn in the head and play with the bowl. Then put a nice back cut on your LS2 valves and send her down the road. I personally made a 862 head with a 2in valve flow 308@.600 held around 300 until .750 then started going turbulent.
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Originally Posted by Noah Hensley
stock they came with 1.890 and 1.550 intake and exhaust. You have to cut the seat to 2in do a bowl cut and set up venturi blend the vlave job put a short turn in the head and play with the bowl. Then put a nice back cut on your LS2 valves and send her down the road. I personally made a 862 head with a 2in valve flow 308@.600 held around 300 until .750 then started going turbulent.
That's some great results tell us more ,details ..... cnc , oem 2" valves and what bore was it tested on ?
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Originally Posted by Lsbmer
2.0 valve is still a 45 main angle

Yes the 1.89 valve is a 50 main angle as was the valve for that seat
I'm thinking about using a 50* seat angle ..... Just curious when you regrind the valve , how much diameter did you lose ?
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Originally Posted by omc8
I'm thinking about using a 50* seat angle ..... Just curious when you regrind the valve , how much diameter did you lose ?
I used the stock seat width. Or close to it. . Stock seat width is around 92-93ish% of a 1.89 valve . Steeper seats help shape the final part of the turn, especially when over 90% width

why in the world would gm want to kill low lift flow. And make the seat % so big stock? (u cant make a decent last part of turn shape at 93% and a 45 angle like oem 706. )To kill off low lift flow or to just use same bowl hog as there other cathedral heads. And cheaper production .idk

But watch Richards videos. The famed 243 hardly has a thing on a 706. Even on a cammed 6.0. Less low lift flow and the way turn is shaped from gm.way less reversion. Way less reverse flow.

You do it right with a 1.89 valve it will outflow a 243 barley and still be around 200cc if that's what u want. Steeper seats flow less at low lift and better pressure recovery at higher lifts.
40/50/62/75 or something like that i used.
u want 4 angles.




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Originally Posted by Ls7colorado
So leave the seat along and just have it cut to a 2.0? Hmmm I might have to see if I can do that myself
Originally Posted by Lsbmer
I used the stock seat width. Or close to it. . Stock seat width is around 92-93ish% of a 1.89 valve . Steeper seats help shape the final part of the turn, especially when over 90% width

why in the world would gm want to kill low lift flow. And make the seat % so big stock? (u cant make a decent last part of turn shape at 93% and a 45 angle like oem 706. )To kill off low lift flow or to just use same bowl hog as there other cathedral heads. And cheaper production .idk

But watch Richards videos. The famed 243 hardly has a thing on a 706. Even on a cammed 6.0. Less low lift flow and the way turn is shaped from gm.way less reversion. Way less reverse flow.

You do it right with a 1.89 valve it will outflow a 243 barley and still be around 200cc if that's what u want. Steeper seats flow less at low lift and better pressure recovery at higher lifts.
40/50/62/75 or something like that i used.
u want 4 angles.
That's some great stuff right there , ........but on the valve itself the 1.89 when you redress to the steeper angle you will lose margin , correct ? So are you turning down the valve a bit to maintain a reasonable margin , don't want it knife edged .


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