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Old 02-11-2012, 01:23 PM
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I paid 550 to get my water pump replaced. And that was from a buddies shop with a discount on labor. The parts are cheap the labor is expensive. Especially on a car where everything is compacted in a tight place
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Originally Posted by Jersey Mike
Jack stands $25 a pair at Harbor Freight. You can get a basic jack for like $60. Socket wrench for 10 bucks & a set of deep sockets for another $10. Breaker bar for $10 and a pliers set for <10. Extension set for $5. Those are all the tools you'd really need for the job. Far from top of the line quality, but if you're just doing occasional wrenching, they'd suit your needs just fine. $150 in a few required tools.

Oil:
Mobil1 is usually about $7/quart, but you can find specials here & there for $25/jug (5-quart jug). Stay stocked up.

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Believe me, they didn't overcharge you. Nothing ever goes right when working on cars, and the number of hours in manuals are only a guide/estimate; it could go either way, depending on how stubborn the car decides to be.

The parts alone cost about $250 after tax. Leaving the labor cost of $300 with tax.
If they, in fact, charge only $60/hr (which is very cheap, by the way) that's really $65/hr after tax. That means they charged for 4.5 hours, which isn't that unreasonable when you think about how many hours the car was actually tying up that service bay getting fluids added, drained, parts properly removed, reinstalled, checked, etc.


To answer the title question: No, your mechanic is not overcharging.
^^^ this guy. helpful without being a ******* dickbag. I'm going to shop around for a new mechanic anyway. It should have realistically taken them 2.5-3 hours. My old mechanic back home always did top notch work and got it done FAST. He charged just a little more to put a new motor in my old grand prix than these guys did for a damn water pump and oil change.

How much should I expect to pay to have my rear main seal changed? realistically...considering most shops here in the southeast charge 60-80 an hour for labor
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
And to add, you weren't even smart enough to put this in the right section
you really are a massive ******* ****** aren't you? Once upon a time before I joined this forum and just read it from time to time, I thought people on here were generally nice and helpful. Douchebag
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Price on the rear main seal seems high. I had a performance shop (who is a sponsor here) change my clutch and they charged $375.00.
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Originally Posted by jadams01
you are being a jerk. someone obviously pissed in your cheerios and you're all butthurt over it or something. If all you know how to do is be an ***, leave the thread. I'm not asking you to post here. I'm actually doing the opposite. Please do not post in my thread anymore so I can get good info from other people. kthxbye.

Anyway. A little back story on the shop. It is owned by a few of the guys that ran the shop at the local pontiac dealership. When the dealership closed, they opened their own shop. That being said, they told me that they only charge $60 an hour labor. That is so contradictory to the price I paid b/c first of all, they should be quick with my car since they worked at the pontiac dealership. Since their labor is almost half the price of other shops that would charge less for the work I had done, does that just mean that the shop I went to took DOUBLE the time to complete the work? Holy crap they must be bad. I know I'm probably more fired up than I should be, but I don't like getting robbed. Like I said above, I have the ability, and would really really like to do the work myself, but I have no tools and no place to work on my car anymore. I had everything I needed when I lived with my parents b/c my grandfather was a mechanic that took all his tools with him when he retired (he even had a set of lifts in his shop), but I live waaaaaay to far away from them to have any access to that stuff =[
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Yo adams... I know you're kinda pissed about how much they charge you, but there's nothing you can do about it unless you get some friends and ya'll do it yourselves... I just paid $500 in labor to drop and install my tranny... It's a pain in the *** to do tranny work without a lift, so it's up to you whether on not it's worth it... I personally don't want to have to pay that to get my clutch changed, but my car has been sitting for like 3 weeks bc I haven't had time do go out there and do it myself (plus it's cold as hell).
Me and two of my homeboys installed my engine and tranny last year. We did the all the gaskets and seals with the engine out the car and it was still time consuming. Trying to replace a rear main seal in your driveway without a lift is going to be a pain in the ***... I highly doubt you're going to want to try to do that, so you have no choice but to pay somebody else to do it... Call around, they can't charge you for asking questions... Tell them your car and find out how much it would be and how long it will take to change the rear main seal... go with whoever gives you the best answer or you feel the most comfortable with...
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Originally Posted by jadams01
you really are a massive ******* ****** aren't you? Once upon a time before I joined this forum and just read it from time to time, I thought people on here were generally nice and helpful. Douchebag
Find a new forum then is all I can suggest. Hey maybe this would go over better on Facebook eh?
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
Find a new forum then is all I can suggest. Hey maybe this would go over better on Facebook eh?
aww whats wrong? bullied too much back in grade school? having a hard time at work? not working at all and feeling useless? girlfriend leave you? have no girlfriend to leave you? etc. if you get joy out of trying to make a new guy on a forum feel unwelcome, then you live a very very sad life. that being said, I learned a few things while helping my wife study in grad school. behavior typical to what you are displaying is usually due to repressed childhood events. did uncle jim touch you too much as a young boy? did your daddy beat you? was your mommy working the streets? i know that remembering those things causes great pain, but we are here to help you...and we care about you.
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Surprised at some of the responses in this thread. The OP didn't come off as rude in his 1st post or bashing the mechanic, he was just asking an honest question.
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I think that shop raped you on the price. I would go back there, question them and demand a partial refund. Let us know what happens.
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The water pump seems a tiny bit high but you should have asked for a breakdown sheet. I always supply my own parts before having anybody work on my vehicles ( If i cannot do it myself for some strange reason) because most auto shops will try to make money on the parts. The next thing I get in a quote is their price per hour and the time the book states so I can get an estimate by multiplying the 2 together. Ive always been told that Whatever the book states for time, a good mechanic can do in about half. By getting their price per hour and time the book states you really cant get screwed. The only exception would be the time they tell you the book calls for but anybody who has worked on vehicles can usually have a pretty good idea of the time it would take. My suggestion would be to buy a nice set of tools and do it yourself if you do not like the price. It may cost you now but you'll have the tools forever and will always be able to use them when need be.
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I think its too much. Next time would be better to ask for an estimate and choose your best bet.
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You're on a public forum and you asked for opinions. Stop expecting everyone in the world to agree with you. You are making it obviously clear you do not wish for honest opinions but rather for us to have sympathy for you. Sorry, this place is more suited to give opinions
im with the jerks, one off opinion you dont like you turn into a baby, ok thanks bye
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Originally Posted by Jersey Mike
Jack stands $25 a pair at Harbor Freight. You can get a basic jack for like $60. Socket wrench for 10 bucks & a set of deep sockets for another $10. Breaker bar for $10 and a pliers set for <10. Extension set for $5. Those are all the tools you'd really need for the job. Far from top of the line quality, but if you're just doing occasional wrenching, they'd suit your needs just fine. $150 in a few required tools.

Oil:
Mobil1 is usually about $7/quart, but you can find specials here & there for $25/jug (5-quart jug). Stay stocked up.

Labor:
Believe me, they didn't overcharge you. Nothing ever goes right when working on cars, and the number of hours in manuals are only a guide/estimate; it could go either way, depending on how stubborn the car decides to be.

The parts alone cost about $250 after tax. Leaving the labor cost of $300 with tax.
If they, in fact, charge only $60/hr (which is very cheap, by the way) that's really $65/hr after tax. That means they charged for 4.5 hours, which isn't that unreasonable when you think about how many hours the car was actually tying up that service bay getting fluids added, drained, parts properly removed, reinstalled, checked, etc.



To answer the title question: No, your mechanic is not overcharging.
I agree^ The water pump is billed at like 2.5 hours, so 2 hours for the other stuff isn't too far outta line.
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Yo adams... I know you're kinda pissed about how much they charge you, but there's nothing you can do about it unless you get some friends and ya'll do it yourselves
that means he would have to first make friends , that might cost more than the shops labor, i dont think you over paid, but if you know how to do all this stuff i dont know why you would pay someone close to 600 bucks for something pretty easy to do, thats right you have no tools, i would spend my money on a few tools so you can save on labor cost, that will really help you if you plan to mod your car later on down the road, 90 % of the time labor will cost more than parts , hope this info helps ok thanks bye

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You could also call other shops in the area and get estimates for those repairs. That would give you an idea if that shop was competitive with their price.
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
And to add, you weren't even smart enough to put this in the right section
I wasn't going to mention that, he is getting a hard enough time already. lol
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I feel the love here haha.

BTW, if you feel a feel a burn you paid too much, so, how do you feel?
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You did not overpay.. that is actually a very fair price. I charged 80/hr @ my shop.. just as long as they know what they are doing, and they sound like they do
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Originally Posted by jadams01
you really are a massive ******* ****** aren't you? Once upon a time before I joined this forum and just read it from time to time, I thought people on here were generally nice and helpful. Douchebag
Originally Posted by jadams01
aww whats wrong? bullied too much back in grade school? having a hard time at work? not working at all and feeling useless? girlfriend leave you? have no girlfriend to leave you? etc. if you get joy out of trying to make a new guy on a forum feel unwelcome, then you live a very very sad life. that being said, I learned a few things while helping my wife study in grad school. behavior typical to what you are displaying is usually due to repressed childhood events. did uncle jim touch you too much as a young boy? did your daddy beat you? was your mommy working the streets? i know that remembering those things causes great pain, but we are here to help you...and we care about you.
You have a big sack there sir!
Actively cussing and and insinuating childhood molestation to one of the most helpful moderators on this forum.
You ROCK!
I think you're already dead here and just don't know it yet...


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